on their website, the air transport users council state that it is EU regulations that if you are downgraded a class, that you are entitled to a percentage of your ticket price to be reimbursed. does this only apply it you have paid to upgrade to premium, or if the airline has changed the aircraft from longhaul to shorthaul,is this also included? i would have thought downgrading would include lack of inflight entertainment,legroom,lack of dutyfree and being able to purchase drinks etc. during the flight? does anyone have any info on this?
thanks.
I think you might not get any compensation for 'loss of enjoyment', but it might be worth asking.
I presume you are talking about the Thomsons Cuba flight that went out on a 767 that had a short haul seating configuration? I doubt you would get that covered as downgraded as far as the regulations go.
Unfortunately I don't think any of the other things you mention would fall into downgrading category under the regulations either. They only cover downgrading in class.
You can try sending a complaint into the tour operator. It is up to them to pay any compensation for such occurrences. Good luck.
thanks again.
BUT it gets murky if the plane is changed from what is "normally" operated.
If the airline never specified what the plane would be and the higher class seat wasn't as good as you expected, if it was better than the basic seats then you are still better off and would struggle to say you've been downgraded.
If the airline did specify the plane/facilities and then sent one that wasn't as good, if you are still in the higher class part then you still might struggle to prove that you've been downgraded but now you've got a claim verging on breach of contract and you might even be able to get that sorted through your credit card company.
Claiming for loss of enjoyment is difficult, especially if the airline is not UK registered, but claiming for an advertised facility that simply wasn't provided is easier.
thanks.
Whether it is an actual class downgrade is a little more difficult to establish. As has been explained, it depends on the type of ticket and the class it states on the ticket (eg Y being economy and J being first class for example). One way of establishing this is the amount of tax paid so I would try to get that information from Thomson. If the tax on the outbound flight is in a higher band than the usual economy class band, you could argue you were downgraded as the premium service (and therefore higher class) wasn't provided.
Mark
I think the OP was travelling in economy not premium.
hi sunaddict,yes we were just normal seats,not paid to upgrade to premium. but we booked with firstchoice because of all the blurb on their website about their longhaul flights and all the "extras" you get as standard. could have got the holiday cheaper with thomascook but they dont have the 33" seat pitch as standard that firstchoice supposedly have.may seem a trivial complaint, but still didn't get what we paid for.
I agree you didn't get what you paid and you quite rightly feel strongly about it, but I think it is more of a matter for the tour operator as a 'nomal' complaint, rather than quoting regulations as a downgrade.
Incidentally, Thos Cook do have 33" seat pitch as standard on their longhaul flights.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arkefly.nl click the Aboard tab to get to class details. Bear in mind this is an automatic translation so odd words go a bit iffy at times!
Arkefly is TUI's Dutch airline (like Thomsonfly). Their website translated by Google at Upgrading/downgrading is covered in Article 10
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:046:0001:0007:EN:PDF
thanks for your replies. sunaddict - i agree that its a complaint for the tour operator to deal with,but was curious about the regulation about downgrading as this was brought up by a post on t/a, and they had actually quoted it to thomson when they complained. i had never heard about it before. thanks for the info on thomas cook, i didn't know that they now provide 33" seat pitch. thats useful to know as often they have had the same holiday as firstchoice, but for a lower price.
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