As for what occurred it as follows:
We were transferred to the Hotel via "Wings Tours" upon our arrival in Egypt. On arrival at our Hotel we handed the "VOUCHER" as requested to the Hotel Reception Desk during the process of booking in. I might ad that we only had a 6 night stay and not the 7 nights that we paid for! On Saturday 25th Oct in the morning we asked the hotel reception staff if they could call WINGS TOURS to arrange our transfer to the airport Sunday morning. They called the WINGS TOUR OPERATORS and handed the telephone to us. Wings told me they would pick us up at the hotel for the transfer to the airport at 01:50hrs Sunday morning.
At 22:00hrs Saturday 25th the hotel reception telephoned our room and told me that my hotel bill had not been paid! I was a bit confused because we had paid any additional services the day before when we arranged the transfer with wings tours! I said maybe I should come down to reception and speak with them as it was not very clear what they were saying on the telephone.
I went to reception 5 minutes later with my wife and son and they said that our tour operator had gone bust and said "JUST LIKE XL AIRLINES" your uk operators have gone bust! I said that what has this to do with me because I have paid my hotel bill and also I have paid "IN FULL" my holiday cost when I booked it some 12 - 13 weeks prior to travelling! I have booked through Travel Republic. The hotel staff said they do not accept any "VOUCHERS" for holidays from WINGS TOURS and that they have not been paid for my holiday! I said, how is this going to affect me, I have paid I am ABTA & ATOL protected! They said you will not be allowed to leave the hotel until we receive payment "IN CASH" for our stay in Hotel Grand Sharm. They said that I need to contact the UK tour operator and arrange "immediate" payment or I will not be allowed to leave.
I was very concerned at this point. My son started to panic at this time after hearing this from the hotel staff and also was very worried when the reception desk was approached by security staff with guns! My wife had to calm him down because he was worried about the men with guns and being told that we could not leave the hotel! I tried calling the UK tour operator which they said was LOWCOSTBEDS.COM on their emergency number but I only got an answerphone. They then said you must call WINGS TOURS in Egypt because they will not speak with the hotel staff and that I should tell WINGS TOURS to come to the hotel and pay the bill IN CASH before they would let us leave! Time was getting on and I was getting extremely concerned. I called WINGS TOURS and they said that it was nothing to do with them and that they had given a VOUCHER to the hotel for my stay and that was all they were prepared to do! The man on the phone "WINGS TOURS" also said that he was the person who would be transferring us back to the airport at 01:50hrs! So I told him that we were not being allowed to leave the hotel until the bill $1,764.00 US DOLLARS was paid in cash! He said that it was not his problem. I said to the hotel staff that we need to return to our room and finish packing because it was getting late! We returned to our room and was in a state of SHOCK at what had just happened, knowing that there was no way we could raise $1,764.00 US DOLLARS before we could leave the hotel.
My Wife and my Son were very distressed and did not know what was going to happen with us. At 01:30hrs Sunday morning the telephone rang again and it was WINGS TOURS saying that they were in the Hotel reception waiting for us to transfer us to the airport. They said do we want them to arrange the hotel staff to collect our luggage from our room and I said yes. We were relieved at last and thought that all was OK and went down to the reception desk to hand in our keys. When we handed in our keys the reception staff said that we can not leave until the bill has been paid! I said that WINGS TOURS were here in the hotel and I thought that all was now OK. They said no, we need to pay the bill before we are allowed to leave! The WINGS TOURS person then walked out of the hotel! I said that I was unable to pay $1,764.00 US DOLLARS and was it possible for me to pay using a credit card! After some consultation they accepted our credit card for the payment in US DOLLARS and allowed us to leave the hotel. WINGS TOURS then transferred us to the airport to which my wife and son were still very very distressed at whether we would be in time for our flight back to the UK.
I wish to add that this completely wrecked our stay in Egypt and this was a very special 20th Wedding Anniversary present to my wife.
Someone somewhere in all this owes you the money surely?
Travel Republic are also mentioned by the OP, if they are the company that the booking was originally made with, would not that be the best place to start ?
L-C-Beds.com also said that it should not of involved us as a tourist at all BUT this did not stop the Hotel from preventing us from leaving! We had but no option other than to pay the bill again, we even had our original receipts and invoices with us that "clearly" showed we had paid the bill 12 - 13 weeks prior to our travel. We had even spoke with the hotel "by email" several times prior to traveling so as to arrange extras for our visit and still no mention was ever made regarding the refusal of any vouchers.
We have had a "standard letter" back from Travel Republic, sorry blah, blah, 28 days etc BUT they could not even be bothered to even sign it!
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fwh
" why would you want to run such a TRIVAL story! Some people go on holiday and DIE !!!! "
When the news reporter then replied "what an awfull thing to say", they said well thats how is it! The news reporter then said that, that's OK then i'll ring our client and explained to them that they should think theirselves lucky because at least their still alive!
20 mins later received a personal telephone call and a full unreserved apology from the Managing Director of Travel Republic "- name removed -" He has stated that we will receive a full refund of monies paid and that they will also seek compensation on our behalf from Lowcostbeds.com.
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Edited by
MarkJ
2008-10-31 17:56:27
To remove name of staff member
Glad you went ahead with the radio programme, just to show up the poor customer service and awful levels of training (if any?) they must give their staff.
What happened to you is everybodys worst nightmare, I should have hated to be stuck in Sharm with my two kids and basically told I couldn't go home until I had paid again for a holiday I had already paid for.
So glad that they are now refunding you. They should be shown up for the charletons that they are and before anyone moans yes I know it wasn't Travel Republic's fault that the Egyptian company went belly-up but that still doesn't excuse Travel Republic treating the OP in this way, they were the ones (s)he made the contract with so they should have given an immediate refund on production of the appropriate paperwork.
The power of the media ! Good Result.
I can never understand why getting the media involved brings forth the apology and speedy settlement. I doubt anyone is fooled into thinking that the company responsible really are all caring - the image they like to project.
Please stick around here on HT - you never know, with your personal experience you might just be able to help someone else.
fwh
A good result in this case would be a total refund plus punitive damages for false imprisonment.
Just like to ad, that today BBC East Midlands News interviewed us today for a story to run this comming Monday PM 6-0 Clock News. They also contacted Travel Republic and asked what had gone on and the reply they received was AND I QUOTE
" why would you want to run such a TRIVAL story! Some people go on holiday and DIE !!!! "
Wow. It's almost so unappropriate it's almost unbelievable that a normal human being could say something like that.
If the story gets repeated on iPlayer, or the possibility of sticking the story on You Tube arises, do let us know because I would love to see it.
We will record and put on you tube, think it might as well be there to warn others!
Perhaps a word with your Member of Parliament may be in order here. Her Majesty's Foreign Office would, I imagine, take a fairly dim view of one or more of Her Majesty's subjects being constrained against their will in a foreign land !!
Things have changed, this is the UK we are talking about.
If this family had somehow managed to escape and get back to the UK without paying, our current lot would have probably arrested them at the airport and extradited them.
We are off to Egypt next month but hopefully FC won't collapse while we are there.
We had a bad experience the first time we went which denigrated our holiday, but this nightmare must have added so much stress - the guns and threats are real - that the OP should be due some compensation for a completely trashed holiday and ongoing blood pressure problems! There is also the added problem that every future holiday will have a cloud. It may be worth talking to Ros!
I've just seen you on BBC East Midlands and what an ordeal you had. Hope you get a lot of compensation - you deserve it after what you went through. Keep pushing it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7706609.stm
Please help me mods put the right link in.
Please help me mods put the right link in.
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Edited by
MarkJ
2008-11-03 19:18:13
Topic tidied
Just to advise you all and keep you up to date, we have had an offer of compensation that is still being considered! The offer is from Lowcostbeds.com although it is being negociated between Ourselves and Travel Republic.
Harby,Have you given Ros a ring? We used her a couple of years ago and she got us all our money back after the company only offered us £80 compensation.
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