Hi all,
Not sure if this is the right place but the first so may be productive.
I have a friend and his family who are stuck in Manchester airport due to a delay from Excel.
They were on the XLA2122 Manchester to Dalaman 8:00 this morning.
They were given a £6 voucher each for breakfast and was not enough lolol.
They have now been told that they are being shipped to a hotel until their flight is ready.
They were told that a plane had broken down in Cyprus so this had affected theirs or it was theirs coming from Cyprus.
They have also been told that they may now not fly until tomorrow.
They are not looking for compensation but are annoyed at the "snotty girl" who is treating them all like
She says that they cannot moan about it as they are doing all they can to help but doing all they can would entail charteing another plane for them would it not.
He wants to know if there is something that he can say or quote to her and remembers from HT about something called the fliers charter so can anyone help.
He is on the phone to me every 30 minutes so all will be relayed to him.
John
John ... the charter referred to may be the new EU legislation. More here ....
Thanks David,
There are 3 issues here.
EC261/2004 covers the airline carrier's responsibilities when there's a delay. It depends upon distance to fly, time of delay and geographic region (in or outside EC). let's assume the delay exceeds 5 hours - the carrier will need to provide meals and refreshments in keeping with the length of the delay. A voucher is a start but if your friends need more than £6 for a breakfast, pay the balance with cash and keep the receipts. Without proof of spend they'l not be able to recover these costs from the airline.
They should also be provided with 2 free short phone calls.
If the delay takes the flight into the day following they should be put up in a hotel and transport provided between hotel and airport.
At the hotel, a meal and refreshments should be provided this evening. Alcohol is not covered by this but bottled water etc. definately is.
Some numbers - article 9 (1) (a) of EC261/2004 covers the meals and refreshments, 9 (2) the phone calls. 9 (1) (b) the hotel and (c) the transport between hotel/airport.
Your friends also have a right to cancel the flight and receive a full refund for the outbound flight cost - such to be paid within 7 days. They could then attempt to book an alternate flight. Article 8 (1) (a) covers this.
Your friends will also be able to claim against their tour operator - assuming they are on a package holiday and not a flight only. They should note the number of days they are delayed and recover that proportion from the tour operator. For example, a one day delay on a 14 night holiday - claim 1/14th of entire holiday cost back from the tour operator.
Your friends may also be elligible to claim from their travel insurance for delay in addition.
Your friends would be best advised to write a complaint letter (by hand) and present to the Excel rep at the departure airport before leaving. Get the rep. to sign a copy as having been received. Follow this up on your return with a cmplaint to the tour operator a.s.a.p. to ensure you meet their complaints procedure deadlines.
Any payment sent by airline/tour operator should be considered carefully. If you cash their cheque you forfeit the right to launch a legal case. So, if they are unhappy with any offer seek professional advice before cashing.
Finally, get them to contact Ros Fernihough on 01922 621114 upon their return.
Hope this helps them.
Looks like they are in for a night in a hotel.
I will let him know about the meal and drinks.
John
They are still in the airport and were told that they would be flying at 11pm but they are still waiting.
They are now going on a jumbo and there are 2 other flights to Dalaman cancelled from the same company hence the need for the jumbo.
He says there is also cancelled flights to Gran Canaria with the same company and tempers are straining.
John
We have quite a lot of discussion about Excel in this topic too:
his is in no way condoning what they have done as if that is the problem and the reason for the delay they as in XL should have told the people
just found this article ,
John- hope they are on their way by now. Whats the latest? BBB.
If it had been me I would have told them to stuff it got my money back and jumped on a last minute flight for £130 at 19:00 last night but then I do Turkey all the time so know what I am doing.
Thanks all for the help.
John
Thanks for the update John. I will close this topic now, but please feel free to continue general discussion about Excel in the following topic:
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