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We heard of organised pub crawls and also that most people stupid enough to go on them were ripped off by bar staff who diluted all the drinks especially the fish bowls. To be honest am glad they were ripped off there were people in our hotel who only got up in the early evening then spent all night drinking, coming back making loads of noise and vomitting all over the pool area, they really don't need to pay loads of money to go and do that abroad but can stay at home and do it here.
Feel sorry for the Turkish people who have to see this all the time.
Rant over.
Lol.
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ardath,

This isn't anything new, it's been going on for years all over the world. Most of the organised bar crawls are done under sort of controlled conditions where guests are collected from accomodation, escorted around bars then returned at the end. It's probably safer than doing it on your own and some prefer the safety of knowing they don't need to worry about transportation at the end of the night. While the 'binge drinking' side of it shouldn't be encouraged, what people drink is really their own choice. Personally, I'd never and haven't been on any organised bar crawls, but those that do are there to enjoy themselves with tour operators simply providing a service. I understand the negative side of them and don't agree with it, but that's what some choose to do on their holiday.

Darren
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As dazbo says it's been going on for years. Bar crawls have been offered along with other trips to the 18-30 brigade of which my son has been a member of in previous years. The 18-30 resorts/hotels have been well documented and imo if you want to avoid that type of shananigan you would be best advised to steer clear from those places.

As for encouraging binge drinking, the holidaymakers are adults and how they choose to spend their money is up to them- I'm sure nobody forcefully pours the drinks down their necks. Whilst it's not the way I'd choose to spend my holidays, we must remember we were young once and like it or not the times have changed.

I think it's a good thing for all that the 18-30 club have their own accomodation as they could equally complain that crowds of screaming kids around the swimming pool would not be their cup of tea either.
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surely Marmaris has enough opportunities to enjoy your hols without any conflict between you and the bar crawlers.
Not into this hobby myself so I never pick a resort that is advertised as " lively" etc. but I recognise that everyone has the right to enjoy their holiday doing the things they want to do.
When holidaying with a diverse mix of ages and nationalities you must expect to see a diverse range of behaviour. Some good, some not so good.
When booking, research the hotel and resort to be sure that you are not going to some 18/30 hotspot if you don't like that kind of thing.
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I hate families on my holidays so I go to the lively resorts and hotels to avoid them :rofl But there will always be one family who hasn't read the reviews and you can't help but feel sorry for them.

Marmaris has some of the biggest opened aired night clubs in the med so of course there will be drunken people and bar crawls. Thomas cook, Thomsons , every tour op does bar crawls and has done for many years. They make a fortune from them. I personally don't go on them as I think they are a rip off and I know Marmaris clubs well enough lol

Each to their own :tup
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greenshoes wrote:
I hate families on my holidays so I go to the lively resorts and hotels to avoid them :rofl


I hope I don't meet you on my holiday then greenshoes ;)
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I say each to their own, if you don't like these sort of places where there's going to be a lot of young people drinking go somewhere quiet. I myself prefer quieter holidays these days with my family, but back when I was in my late teens early 20's this sort of holiday would have appealed to me.
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It is all very well for us to say 'each to their own' or 'would have done the same when in my teens' but I wonder who would want to actually have to live in Marmaris during peak season!
I was brought up in France until I was 14 years old and can honestly say that the French have a totally different attitude to drinking and think the British are stark raving mad when it comes to alcohol, as
do many other nationalities. I drank a small amount of wine with meals from being a tot and was brought up to appreciate fine wines as an accompaniment to food, not just knocked back until I was wasted.
Seems it is not only major holiday companies who encourage binge drinking, but many on this site too.
Not that we can do much about it, people will do what they want, but we can mention it when something is wrong, and though I am only in my early twenties I think that binge drinking is very, very, wrong. :cry
Lol.
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Yes thats fun.. They organize these nightlife trips to Bars Street in Marmaris.. Give it a try..
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You can go on a bar crawl in any UK city so I don't see the issue. And yes each to their own, I think some peoples holidays on here sound like they are going to a retirement home for 2 weeks but I don't think anything less/go on about it/insult them about it. So yes, each to their own. :rofl
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The only trouble is Greenshoes that some people (and I'm not suggesting this is you) take things too far and behave disgustingly when they've had too much to drink, not caring that other people (who are also on their holidays and have also saved up hard to enjoy themselves) may be upset by their behaviour.

If people go on bar crawls around the bars which cater for them, then that's no problem - after it's their holiday. It's what they do afterwards - I've seen them "invade" family-friendly bars and completely spoil the evening.

I agree with live and let live - just keep to the right areas.

Jak xx
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My husband and I do not act like a retired couple when abroad, in fact we were only married last year and are both in our twenties, and we do have a drink or two sometimes, but prefer to enjoy the actual place we are visiting, by getting to know the area and the people. As for those who just want to drink, well that as everyone keeps saying is their choice, but as the last poster said, and as I tried to say, drunken holidaymakers can and do make a nuisance of themselves, often spoiling it for others.
Perhaps my husband and I are just a bit old fashioned but we happen to think that when travelling abroad holidaymakers should try to give a good impression of themselves and their country of origin.
In any case that is what we think.
But as has been said before 'each to their own', so if others just don't care, it's their choice.
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Of course you get your lager louts and drunken idiots in Marmaris, you also get them in every resort across the med and can be found in a town near you every Saturday night. Just because you drink on holiday and go out clubbing doesnt make you a drunken idiot. That is all my point is. Bar crawls are good fun and yes there will always be people who go too far.
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nothing to do with bar crawls as such, but as many seem to be annoyed by these, lets look at some other things holidaymakers do that annoy each other.
My personal dislike is families with undisciplined kids running amok in restaurant , bars etc.
Knocking glasses over, getting in the way, screaming , having food fights and otherwise making a nuisance....... but the poor little dears are on holiday, aren't they?
The parents ARE on holiday, they have left parental responsibility at the airport.

Don't get me wrong, I love kids (couldn't eat a whole one :rofl ) and if you are parents who enjoy their holiday and control their kids, God bless you!

If,however you believe you and your kids are on hols and anything goes the PLEASE, pick a different resort to me!

Next gripe, the bore on the next sunbed who got the same holiday as you for ££££££'s less.
He's there every flippin year :duh
So, after bar crawls what spoils YOUR holiday? Maybe we can educate each other :D
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Must sound like a real old grumpy git, but I have to agree with the previous poster with regard to badly behaved kids. We have to go on holiday peak season because my husband is a teacher, but otherwise would choose to go out of season when most kids are at a school. From having to sit in front of hyperactive kids on the plane who continously kick the back of my seat, to having them throw pool water all over the book I am reading, or getting up at the crack of dawn and shrieking like banshees until the whole hotel is wondering if there is a fire alarm going off, I really, really, do not want to be swatting the little ankle biters off like mosquitoes when I am supposed to be relaxing.
Parents please take note - you are still responsible for your kids when you are on holiday, so don't just sit around sipping your iced beverages as if you are on a Saga holiday, get up and extract your children from whichever innocent holidaymakers they are worrying like sheep. And if they get up early, apply a little parental bribery to get them to shut up.
Thanks.
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I have 3 children and would never dream of letting them be unruly on holiday, I find there's nothing worst than having to put up with someone else's badly behaved kids who act like animals half the time :cry , But what does bug me is when some people don't do their homework and choose a "family hotel" and then proceed to " tut & raise eyebrows" about the kids being kids :que

As for the bar crawls, they have always happened & I (when I was younger) went on these and went abit over the top, but I think when you grow up and have a family you realised how pathetic you looked :cheers
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I take your point about choosing 'family orientated hotels' but when we went for an establishment that boasted mainly 'couples' or 'mixed groups of adults' rather than families we ended up with mainly 18-30s guests which was far worse.
This year to avoid similar problems we are renting an entire property from 'Owners Direct' and so will be totally independent of all other holidaymakers, young, old, badly behaved, or drunk.
Sorted.
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Think we are probably going to be told we are :offtop and need to start a new thread but hey ho. I think by the time you have raised your own children you have probably earned your hard earned holiday. I agree with ardath, I don't want kids running amok, splashing my book, or throwing a ball in my face whilst I am on holiday. I choose our hotel carefully and to be honest we do spend a bit more than we would like but god love them, those families always seem to appear with the attitude,"we've paid good money for this, you do as you like my son" and the parents sit back,drinking themselves silly, totally oblivious to the chaos their little "darlings" are creating. Totally selfish, as you say they leave their parenting at the airport,before they board the plane I might add. Why do I always get the kid that kicks the back of your seat or wails for sweets,fizzy drinks and crisps? Don't get me wrong, I love kids and I work with them but some parents certainly think they are off duty on holiday and it's not just us Brits.O.k rant over.
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Hi all
The pub crawls were offered as trips on our holiday with First Choice just recently. But we are too old and sensible for any of that!!!! :D

Dawnie-Rob :wave

PS. I have seen parents knocking them back late at night, whilst the children are running around or screaming annoying people, and playing up because they are tired and should be in bed.
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