Hi
Just registered on this site after advice from a fellow poster on TripAdvisor. Below is what prompted the advice and briefly describes my intense anger towards this company. All advice appreciated.
I posted this early in August 2005 on TripAdvisor
["Due to leave for the Tucan 9 August 05, received a call from TA this p.m. saying that due to problems with Airtours, we cannot now stay at the Tucan. We already have our tickets and now I have to take a day off work tomorrow to try and find an alternative holiday.
The TA offered us £40 compensation and a stay at the Gran Costa Real Resort, but, after reading the reviews about it here on TripAdvisor it is NOT a patch on the Tucan and it is not a like for like swap price wise either.
In a real panic now, got to find something to fit around the time we can get off work. Two children and wife are devastated, as am I, was really looking forward to the Tucan. Am so MAD with Airtours, they are useless, conniving imbeciles and that's putting it mildly.
Looking to go to Europe now, will post soon to let you all know if I am successful finding an alternative holiday. Truly fed up!!!
Trevor]"
Well, we went to the Costa Real, not bad, had an ok holiday, but the Real nowhere near as good as the Tucan. Got back, wrote to Airtours, explained our disappointment etc and requested £500 compensation, specifically stating that I did not want the compensation in vouchers towards another holiday as I had no intention of using them again.
Finally received a letter this morning from Airtours enclosing £495, IN VOUCHERS. Intend to call them requesting CASH, I paid in cash and I want cash back. I have already booked for next year, with another company. I do not want to use Airtours ever again.
Anyone else received compensation in vouchers and complained? Did you eventually get a cash refund?
Please help.
Trevor
By sending the vouchers I would say they are admitting you have a claim. I would speak to Ros Fernihough who is a travel law lawyer and assists our members. She will offer you free legal advice - give her a call on 01922 621114
After booking yet again and not being allowed to use them, they were getting close to their use by date, so I copied them as proof and sent them back listing all the booking refs we hadn't been allowed to use them against and demanding a cheque, they did eventually send a cheque but with all the phoning over 4 holidays trying to redeem them it must have cost me a fortune in phone calls let alone the stress.
Good Luck
Lynn
Having read many posts on this topic I can't remember having read of anybody else receiving ANY form of compensation, perhaps other posters can confirm what they have received, if anything.
Hope you get it sorted
Graham
I see Lynn has posted a reply just before me and she got vouchers, but was eventually able to get a cash refund, so stick with it
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Kiltman HT Mod
2005-10-04 07:44:08
Wellcome to holidaytruths. Hope you get this sorted. Do phone Ros see if she can help. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
All the best
FB
In the end we got some of our money back but nothing for our time at the Gran Costa Real as it had been all that was available.
Was there much of a price difference between the 2 hotels? Although our original hotel was much nicer with better facilities the price difference wasnt that much.
Good luck
Bridd
Further to Kiltman Graham's post, I can confirm that I have received compensation (in vouchers and cheque) from a couple of TO's including My Travel who are the umbrella company for Airtours. It has always been received on a 'without prejudice' basis.
We have had the vouchers I mentioned in my last post and just last month Roz the travel solicitor got us a cheque payout from MyTravel which was not over generous in the circumstances but it was more than we could have negotiated by ourselves, I doubt they will be given the opportunity to mess up any more holidays for us.
iv just found this page and im very worried as im supposed to be going to the tucan in december with airtours. has anyone found out anything elses about this?
Check with the hotel every day and if after 4 weekds before depature they do not have your reservation but have others reservations from the dates you are travelling I would again phone them and request a refund and compensation.
Good lUCK.
Just wanted to round this post off, received CHEQUE this morning for the full amount I requested. Had a lot of hassle getting it though, loads of calls and two further letters.
One thing is for sure; I will never use this company again. Be persistent, it does pay off.
Thanks for all your help.
TAE
airtours are a waste of space
Here, Here.... Airtours are the worst!
Indeed they are!!
And just to prove my point about Airtours, I had a letter from them the other day refusing my compensation claim. And still not answering any of my questions despite me insisting on this. They just don't give a damn about their customers. I have given them a chance to redeem themselves by doing the right thing. And they have just tried to fob me off with a letter.
http://www.abta.com/ will access the ABTA web site and in the upper right corner you'll see a box offering a PDF download of the Code of Conduct. Look at section 2.2 which discusses Significant Alterations To Travel Arrangements by Principles (the Tour Op usually). and in particular clause (iii), sub-claus (iii) wherein the suggestion that you should have been provided with alternate accommodation comparable to the original (if possible).
Appendix 4, point B 4 clause (ii) strongly reinforces the change of accommodation for one opf a lower category and/or price as being a Significant Change.
This link http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1992/Uksi_19923288_en_1.htm gives you the juicy details of The Package Travel, Package Holidays and Package Tours Regulations 1992.
section 12, Significant Alterations to Essential Terms is worth a look as is Section 13 (2) (b) which specifically explains about the difference in price.
Neither document specifically permits the tour operator to provide compensation by way of vouchers. Both documents refer to the refunding of monies and my interpretation of such is the refund of monies you have already paid - ie. cash, or a cheque drawn on a Sterling Account, or a refund to your credit card.
If a tour operator insists on issuing vouchers this would increase it's liabilities. They would in effect be offering 'promisory notes'. As such they should increase the value of the bond they have lodged with the regulatory bodies. Vouchers are of course only valid whilst the company exists. If they went into receivership you would become a creditor - and not a preferential one at that. Even a take-over could effect the validity of the vouchers.
Threaten to report Airtours to ABTA unless they exchange the £495 vouchers for cash. Keep a copy of the vouchers for proof of thei acceptance of liability if you are asked to return them before cash is sent. You should place a max. of 14 days timescale on this acceptance.
Mike
this link Appendix 4, point B 4 clause (ii) strongly reinforces the change of accommodation for one opf a lower category and/or price as being a Significant Change.
This link http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1992/Uksi_19923288_en_1.htm gives you the juicy details of The Package Travel, Package Holidays and Package Tours Regulations 1992.
section 12, Significant Alterations to Essential Terms is worth a look as is Section 13 (2) (b) which specifically explains about the difference in price.
Neither document specifically permits the tour operator to provide compensation by way of vouchers. Both documents refer to the refunding of monies and my interpretation of such is the refund of monies you have already paid - ie. cash, or a cheque drawn on a Sterling Account, or a refund to your credit card.
If a tour operator insists on issuing vouchers this would increase it's liabilities. They would in effect be offering 'promisory notes'. As such they should increase the value of the bond they have lodged with the regulatory bodies. Vouchers are of course only valid whilst the company exists. If they went into receivership you would become a creditor - and not a preferential one at that. Even a take-over could effect the validity of the vouchers.
Threaten to report Airtours to ABTA unless they exchange the £495 vouchers for cash. Keep a copy of the vouchers for proof of thei acceptance of liability if you are asked to return them before cash is sent. You should place a max. of 14 days timescale on this acceptance.
Mike
Wow you seem to know a lot! Thanks for the info by the way I am sure all member here will appreciate your help.
FB
Have sent final letter off and have given them 14 days to return deposit after which time I am handing it over to a solicitor without warning.
Keep U posted.
There is a lot of help and assistance regarding Travel Laws together with all the links in our
I wish they had adivce on travel problems even before you went on holiday like the miss selling of holidays or wedding packages. Advice on what to do if a tour op or agent ignores all your letters and emails in your efforts to hurry the matter and they take over 52 days to reply etc.
Surely these companies have a moral obligation to their customers to reply at least within 28 days or sooner if the matter is seen as urgent.
It would be nice if these matters were given some attention in the holidays advice section. As many writers are experiencing long delays in the TA responding to them.
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