Miccie wrote:Max13biker - why do you keep returning?
Because it gives him something to moan about
Re: Has anyone not liked Goa?
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Because it gives him something to moan about
Yes, dear HT member - you and I, and all of us who repeatedly visit Goa.
I started going in 2005 and have gone every year since. One year I went twice!
Every year I look at the filth, the corruption, I get annoyed at the visa problems, and I vow never to return. And every year I get home, and book again. Just as many of us do.
It's called addiction.
I'm back again in January 2012, and if I don't manage to kick the habit, no doubt 2013 also.
New visitors to Goa are few, and usually quite stunned by the filth and corruption they see. And Diabolical Airport....
Many easily manage to avoid becoming addicted, and they never return.
BUT - if every one of us who have been before
- join together and just say enough is enough, and we completely boycott India for a year, then I reckon things might change.
The crazy Goan ministers who do what they do, (or mostly do nothing), would be appalled if flights from the UK arrived at Diabolical Airport virtually empty, in winter 2012/2013.
The UK tour ops would quickly cut back.
The Russians are unlikely to fill all the places left.
And - they do NOT tip. So less desirable customers.
Goa would have a really tough season, the bad ministers would be eliminated, something might get
done to clean up the place, they would wake up about being more sensible about visas, they might even sort out Diabolical Airport.
(yes, I'm dreaming again)
Then one year on, we could return to what we remember as a wonderful, albeit third world, but welcoming, with lots of character (and still a little scruffy), destination.
But - of course we won't do it. I'll be there in January 2012, and probably 2013 also.
And so will you, won't you?
I started going in 2005 and have gone every year since. One year I went twice!
Every year I look at the filth, the corruption, I get annoyed at the visa problems, and I vow never to return. And every year I get home, and book again. Just as many of us do.
It's called addiction.
I'm back again in January 2012, and if I don't manage to kick the habit, no doubt 2013 also.
New visitors to Goa are few, and usually quite stunned by the filth and corruption they see. And Diabolical Airport....
Many easily manage to avoid becoming addicted, and they never return.
BUT - if every one of us who have been before
- join together and just say enough is enough, and we completely boycott India for a year, then I reckon things might change.
The crazy Goan ministers who do what they do, (or mostly do nothing), would be appalled if flights from the UK arrived at Diabolical Airport virtually empty, in winter 2012/2013.
The UK tour ops would quickly cut back.
The Russians are unlikely to fill all the places left.
And - they do NOT tip. So less desirable customers.
Goa would have a really tough season, the bad ministers would be eliminated, something might get
done to clean up the place, they would wake up about being more sensible about visas, they might even sort out Diabolical Airport.
(yes, I'm dreaming again)
Then one year on, we could return to what we remember as a wonderful, albeit third world, but welcoming, with lots of character (and still a little scruffy), destination.
But - of course we won't do it. I'll be there in January 2012, and probably 2013 also.
And so will you, won't you?
Max13biker - why do you keep returning?
Recently we asked ourselves that same question.
The conclusion was - that after 12 years we've probably had enough and this year will be our last visit.
Max13biker wrote:Max13biker - why do you keep returning?
Recently we asked ourselves that same question.
The conclusion was - that after 12 years we've probably had enough and this year will be our last visit.
well, we said that after 21 years,but still returning for our annual 5 months.
I did notice you said PROBABLY HAD ENOUGH
I also remeber syaing when we first went to Goa "where the hell have we come" but back we have kept going
We also have been saying "not going back" but back we go. But this time will deff be last not because of the people but because of the cost of the flights ( I am now retired) We have stayed at the Marriott and at the Pheonix Park but for the last few years we have rented an apt. above a wonderfull English couple's home in a small villiage ( comput access, own pool, sky tv, and 2 on suit bathrooms ) much prefer it to the actual resorts, but near enough if we want a bit more "life"
It is deff a case of each to their own or we could all end up on a beach in Blackpool l.o.l
We also have been saying "not going back" but back we go. But this time will deff be last not because of the people but because of the cost of the flights ( I am now retired) We have stayed at the Marriott and at the Pheonix Park but for the last few years we have rented an apt. above a wonderfull English couple's home in a small villiage ( comput access, own pool, sky tv, and 2 on suit bathrooms ) much prefer it to the actual resorts, but near enough if we want a bit more "life"
It is deff a case of each to their own or we could all end up on a beach in Blackpool l.o.l
Just returned from what was going to be our last visit after more than 20 years or so. Needless to say we've got our room booked again for next November.
The biggest change this year is the huge increase, year on year, of local tourists. I've no problem with that, every day I wander along from our shack, Aggies, next to the Goan Heritage, to watch the masses at the steps at Calangute. It's just mayham and the litter and filth is indescribable. But as the beloved Tourist Minister sacked the last beach cleaning company and has'nt got round to signing the contracts for the new company, hardly surprising.
It's not for the fainthearted however and as for the water sports, it cant be long till fatilities occur.
The domestic tourist in a very few years will take over the declining numbers from Europe and Russia, so I dont think they will notice it when we finally give up on our beloved Goa.
Alan
The biggest change this year is the huge increase, year on year, of local tourists. I've no problem with that, every day I wander along from our shack, Aggies, next to the Goan Heritage, to watch the masses at the steps at Calangute. It's just mayham and the litter and filth is indescribable. But as the beloved Tourist Minister sacked the last beach cleaning company and has'nt got round to signing the contracts for the new company, hardly surprising.
It's not for the fainthearted however and as for the water sports, it cant be long till fatilities occur.
The domestic tourist in a very few years will take over the declining numbers from Europe and Russia, so I dont think they will notice it when we finally give up on our beloved Goa.
Alan
Cheers gramps. Do the domestic tourists outnumber the taxis yet ? ha ha !! Has anyone seen the domestic tourists use a taxi ?
Must have had a good time though seeing you have booked again.
Must have had a good time though seeing you have booked again.
Agree Gramps. We often stood at the Calangute steps area and watched the Indian holidaymakers as they were getting on and off various water sports machines. It was complete bedlam with (big surprise!) no order or sense of danger.
I know sometimes we westerners are a bit obsessed with "elf an' safety" but without doubt, somebody will be seriously injured there. Young kids are walking out to get on "big bananas" whilst jet skis come storming in. Boats are anchored up with the anchor lines ready to trip people up or get hit by a jet ski. Very scary and very Indian!
Good to hear you've not given up on Goa, though!
I know sometimes we westerners are a bit obsessed with "elf an' safety" but without doubt, somebody will be seriously injured there. Young kids are walking out to get on "big bananas" whilst jet skis come storming in. Boats are anchored up with the anchor lines ready to trip people up or get hit by a jet ski. Very scary and very Indian!
Good to hear you've not given up on Goa, though!
Roma
the first time we stood at Calangute steps our expressions must have been similar to that on your avatar!
I agree about the safety aspect, I can't see why they don't have roped off sections for swimmers/paddlers and the different water sports.
Re the original question - we spoke to a couple a few years ago staying in our hotel who'd gone to Goa on a friend's recommendation that "you'll love it!".
They didn't.
They were used to 5* AI hotels in the Caribbean and couldn't get on with the basic (but clean) rooms, the hassle (their words), the dust, the beggars, the poverty.
the first time we stood at Calangute steps our expressions must have been similar to that on your avatar!
I agree about the safety aspect, I can't see why they don't have roped off sections for swimmers/paddlers and the different water sports.
Re the original question - we spoke to a couple a few years ago staying in our hotel who'd gone to Goa on a friend's recommendation that "you'll love it!".
They didn't.
They were used to 5* AI hotels in the Caribbean and couldn't get on with the basic (but clean) rooms, the hassle (their words), the dust, the beggars, the poverty.
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