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Brilliant report as always Michelle . :tup .sorry to hear about your mums nasty experience . I trust you will be letting Thomson know how badly trained their staff are in basic first aid . And given the heat in Egypt during the summer I would of thought that it something they need to look at pronto.

Please pass on my congratulations to your daughter . brilliant news :tup
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great report Michelle. Hope your mum is feeling better.

Garry
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Glad to read that on balance, despite the dramas, you still had a good time. Hope your mother is back on form now. Congratulations to your daughter. I'm sure she will have a great few years in Lincoln - I live there and the students I know seem to have a great time, its now a student friendly city and comparatively safe. My daughter starts a teaching degree in Lincoln this September.
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Excellent report Michelle. As you know, I was staying over the road at the same time and your report is pretty similar to what I would say about the sister hotel. Everyone in our party of 22 had a dose of Pharoah's revenge and some of us are still suffering now! We have been back a week!

Hopefully your mum is well recovered now. I find it astonishing that the Rep/Guide did not know basic first aid not had the ability to recognise what appears to me to be heatstroke.

We too got caught out at the airport. I had to pay £11 for the visa. The aiport was its usual chaotic self and some guy was demanding money from me for allegedly carrying my bag..when in fact i have no idea who's bag he did have but it certainly wasn't mine!

So will you go back to SBR?
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Hi justval
We will not sadly be going back to SBR or sharm for a few years, mainly after 5 years we want to 'see' other parts of the world. We would go next door to the Oonas bar, hotel and restaurant. On the last day Latoyah showed us around the double room with a huge fridge and separate room for showering. It was lovely with a seaview or bay view. Rooms are really reasonable, and even cheaper to fly with a non frills airline for a winter destination.
We were lucky to have a free upgrade with SBR to A1, if i had paid for the A1 service like a lot did, i would not be a happy bunny. You could always find something to eat, but that is not the point, food in Egypt hotels is some what always geared to International guests. The A1 option in SBR will kill the hotel i think and quite possibly Sonesta club also. There is no option now for B&B.
Although nearly everyone coming home on the aircraft was disgusted about the food, they came from all different hotels. A couple we sat next to on the exit seats flying back were staying at the Ritz Carlton, they got married. Des Barnes from corrie in his fame was there. It was only on a B&B basic, yet for food it cost them £50 each night! All she ate was bread as the food was not good and expensive.

I would never go back to Egypt in the summer months, Pharaohs revenge hits 85 percent of guests who travel from April until the first week in October. Its the heat, air conditioning, different foods.Nearly all travelling parties who travel outside of these times will be ok as the heat is more normal to what we are used too. That advice came from the SBR doctors, and i saw two of them :yikes
Mum didnt take her blood pressure tablets, thats one of the reasons she collapsed, and the fact she hadnt eaten and the extreme temps. She is fine now, thanks for everyones good wishes.

I still enjoyed our holiday, and i love the ambiance of the SBR, but please they have to change some of the menus :(

Michelle x
Sonesta beach resort queen :sun2
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Caro

Hi,

We dont live in Lincoln, but go over there every week for my shopping, been visiting Lincoln since i was 6 years old, and know it better than my own town. I loved the look of the Uni and all her friends passed as well. We visit portland street every 2 weeks for our tatts.

Michelle x
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Very honest in your review Michelle without totally slagging it. i too would not go back in the summer months as it half killed me and I was underwater most of the time! That said...there were people in our party who have travelled to Egypt many times and all year round and knew what to expect and as our most experienced, they were the worst affected by pharoahs revenge. In fact, she was the worst affected out of the entire party and is still ill now. Me..well I ate barely nowt other than bread and butter and the odd potato and even then i found they were raw one night and could not put a knife through em!( first hols where I have ever lost weight) and still was ill. I am still ill now. It is not nice. It has to be summat to do with the food..that many people for that length of time in one hotel????

Yes, Camel bar was great, yes the diving was great..but I did not like the rest of it and would prefer to be in Egypt low season and maybe somewhere quieter like Taba. I preferred Hurghada to this last one.I accept I am an Egypt novice but all the same...Naama Bay is not for me and neither was Sonesta...and that is unfair of me to say it about the hotel as really it is an ok place but we were all ill and it sort of puts you off...I would have to be heavily bribed to go back!!!
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i also got farengitus whilst out there, a bug from the swimming pool and ear ache, since coming home i have had strange pains in stomach, not exactly cramps, but need the loo quick, and flu like symptoms in legs with tiredness.
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Yes..that is exactly what the rest of us are still suffering from. I had such an attack of cramp this morning it went from the tip of my ankle right the way up to my bum cheeks..talk about agony. I feel so drained and can still barely eat owt. That to me says it must be the hotel...I have been back a week and I am still suffering..so maybe the hygiene practices in the kitchen are not so great. What else would cause that many people to be ill for that length of time. :que
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Val

Every time i have been to Egypt, these symptoms appear until it gets out of your system. If it is intense, i would advise to seek medical help, basically because it could be something else like e coli perhaps?
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Hi Michelle :wave:

Not been around much lately and only just got round to reading this. Great trip report as usual. :tup Glad you managed to enjoy yourselves despite the frightening incident with your Mums health and you all having pharoahs revenge. It does sound like there might be a few hygiene issues in the kitchens although as you say I'm sure the high temperatures and air c o n dont help. Glad both times I have been it's been April, so temperatures a bit more normal, its worse being poorly in extreme temperatures.

Have you heard from Thomson re charging you for over weight luggage (that wasn't overweight) yet ? Hopefully, they should send you a refund.

I always thought Thomson/Portland were one of the better travel companys to deal with, but they are becoming like all the rest. It's so annoying as you feel ripped off, and it gets everything off to a bad start.

I'm sure you will go back there sometime though.

Doe :sun2
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Yes i got a four page letter, thomson praising themselves on high customer care :shrug and that they were going to talk to the woman who charged us for the suitcase incident, and that reps need first aid training. They told me that i wont get to know the outcome of the results. In other words nothing will be done. I did think about sending my information with a copy of the letter to Abta. That day there were so many people who had to pay more. We were not no way near the 20kg. I shall not be travelling with this company again, no refund given as they said they couldnt prove it :que

Michelle x
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it is unfortunate that you had this experience Michelle..and what with the way the travel companies are all merging, it will become increasingly harder to strike a decent bargain. I once spent 84 minutes on the phone trying to talk to a Thomson person and was told constantly for the whole of those 84 mnutes that my call was important to them. My phone actually ran out of battery life before I got to speak to anyone..the air was lovely and blue in my house!

Hopefully your mum is all fully recovered after her dreadful experience. It took me about 3 weeks before i felt right again and there is one person from our party who is still ill and has been to the docs several times..he was finally referred to a specialist yesterday. We got back on July 4th!

Don't think I would go to the Sonnesta again for a while..if ever to be honest.
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Hi Val
I had no problem with the hotel at the SBR, but its the time of year we go eg, summer months. Some people have cast iron stomachs who can eat and drink everything and not be ill. In my case i get it all the time for a couple of days. I, too, is still not right, my bowel situation isnt still 100%. What takes the joy out of the holiday was trying to book trips around the time you know your going to be ill. Even if i was out of things for 2 days which i was, its not pleasant to have Pharaohs revenge the day you are due to go on a trip ! I will go back to Eygpt, but a different part and around November - Feb when you dont seem to get ill. I think the food in general for eating out has gone down hill in the past years, and i sometimes went twice a year.
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