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Hi

Sorry to hear about the bad start to your holiday. I understand your frustration with the insurance company but I think you will probably find that in your insurance policy booklet it states that delayed departure can only be claimed if the delay is at the final departure point in or returning to the UK. The delay has to be at least 12 hours.

Keep pushing Thomas Cook. Did you register a complaint whilst you were away? They might be feeling benevolent with it being the seaon of goodwill but I wouldn't raise my hopes too high knowing what the tour operators customer service are like. :yikes

I hope you get good news.
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Thanks for the reply - I know that is what the document says, my frustration is at how they can think a delay or diversion after you have left the UK does not matter. Not good cover or customer service.

I am not holding out much hope with regard to TC - a discount on a future flight would be acceptable. If not - Delta or US airways next time :)
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Hi

I agree the cover doesn't seem to portray good customer service but if you find a policy that does cover for delays after leaving the UK please let me know as all the ones I have used have all been the same. Would be good to know for future reference. My annual policy is up for renewal in a few months.
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Forgive my ignorance but why (and at what time) was LAS shut? And what happened when you arrived in Ontario - were you just left at the airport or was something arranged?

Travel insurers increasing work on the basis of what they specifically say will be covered and not what they specifically exclude and I suppose no-one thought about a flight being seriously delayed once it had taken off. The only real use of insurance these days is to get you home if you have an accident or are taken ill - assuming it's down to a problem that is included! If you ever have any other sort of problem and find that your insurance will pay out you can class it as being just short of winning the Lottery!
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The problem is not the small print but who has responsibilty in such situations. The airline/TO or your personal insurance. There are several posts regarding the problems with travel insurance and some time ago a member posted some excellent advice. Standard policies just do not give the cover that people need and all try to compete on price. The fact you pay that bit more is no guarantee that you will have the cover you actually would like or need. There is insurance available but you need to deal with a broker or specialist company. M&S may be good for clothes. Tesco and Asda for groceries, but the insurance they sell is simply a way in which they can make money by selling someone elses policies.

I can well understand the frustration when such things happen but it is a case of you pays your money and takes a chance. There is plenty of good advice and information here on HT about destinations and accomodation but insurance is an area where we really do lack an expert here on HT.

fwh
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Hi fwh

Please can you give me some names of insurance companies that cover delays/diversions after leaving the UK (when it's a direct flight). I can't find any and as my annual insurance is nearly up for renewal it would be really useful. Thanks.
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I cannot advise about any specific company but we do have a dedicated topic for insurance that can be found here.

http://www.holidaytruths.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1329&start=0

The alternative would be to contact a broker or possibly the Association of British Insurers who would be able to advise you of members who specialise in travel insurance.

http://www.abi.org.uk/

There have been some horrific tales over the year where people taking part in adventerous acivities have not been coverred by the normal policies. If you are someone who does that then the governing body will have a list of specialist insurers who will tailor the polcy to meet your needs.

People find reading the T&Cs and small print daunting yet many of the policies bought fail to give even basic cover for normal holiday activities. You don't find out until you try to claim.

Many of the complaints here on HT are so often about TOs but the problems people encounter with TOs are trivial compared to failings in insurance cover.

fwh
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The airport closure was, I am sure, due to adverse weather conditions, namely Snow and Ice. I am afraid no-one except the 'Big Man' himself is responsible for that, so I think you are wasting your time trying to aportion blame to TCs or indeed to your insurance company.
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I agree. I cannot understand how this can be Thomas Cooks fault? It is an Act of God, and unfortunately these things happen.
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Soozy

I sympathise with your frustration, but feel you must put the incident down as one bad experience on what hopefully was otherwise an enjoyable holiday.
As a recent traveller subjected to extra nights in Bangkok at considerable expense to myself (due to protests totally closing the airport down for many days) I thought I would be able to recoup the expenses from my insurance but, upon reading the policy at length I found this was not so. So to an extent I understand your frustration though I think you will have to just put it down to one of those unforseeable things that happen during travel from time to time.
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Perhaps some of you have misread my intentions - I am aware that there is no-one as such to blame for the situation and that it is not covered by my insurance. I thought that I was being helpful in making other people aware of the lack of coverage in the same way that I found out on here about not being covered if alcohol is a factor in an incident. :cheers
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Soozy

I took it as yet another valid warning about the inadequacies of most policies.

In fact there maybe someone to blame if the airport management didn't handle the situation as well as they might. But without detailed knowledge of the weather forecast and what resources the airport had we'll never know.

This case highlights the general problem of airlines not being required to give auditable detailed explanations when things go wrong. The European courts recently gave a ruling tightening up on what constitutes exceptional circumstances regarding aircraft faults but until we have a right of access to details this will be practically useless. And the exceptional circumstances rule is still open to abuse for other causes. Until we get a right to accurate information airlines will be able to hide behind it when they shouldn't and we won't trust them even when they are being genuine! Whilst there is a lack of openess it's no wonder insurance companies don't want to touch the problem.
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You do not have to buy the holiday insurance from your travel agent or tour operators as part of your holiday booking. It is NOT compulsory to purchase the one they offer. You should get a policy to suit your own personal requirements as soon as you book though.

In the UK the Financial Services Authority (FSA), from 1st Jan 2009 will regulate all travel companies selling connected travel insurance (CTI). Travel agents including ABTA members and tour operators have now got to be approved and regulated by the FSA to sell or refer you to purchase travel insurance. You can check if they are registered on the FSA website. http://www.fsa.gov.uk

FWIW Sainsbury are offer 10% online discount for customers at the moment. http://www.sainsburysbank.co.uk/insuring/ins_travelinsurance_trv_skip.shtml

In answer to the op, I am sorry that you missed out on some holiday time, but not sure what advise to give after the event. Some policies will cover missed departure for connecting flights, some don't. If you plan a trip make sure you get the right cover. I think some agents were miss selling policies and this is why the FSA have stepped in. Sounds like yours didn't provide the right cover for you.
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