i agree totally with Meagain and think its no mean feat just changing venues and finding somewhere that fits the bill...believe me nowhere is going to be perfect in all ways...and there's a lot to consider when deciding on a place... it isn't just Ram that has had the pleasure of us, we have also benefited from using the carvery and enjoyed the meets (and many parties) there for many years.. its been a great venue really all in all... and so this season has seen a few hick ups .. but its a bit harsh just to up and leave ... i think we should wait till next season and talk to Ram and see what we can sort out ..and then decide what to do if we arent happy ... just my opinion... apart from anything else monsoon definitely isnt the best time to decide or arrange a new venue...

this season has been the worst attended in the years i have been going,both by new people and even the old stallworts,many who were missing for weeks,some meets in the season only having 9 attending and we are 3 of those,so maybe we should also take a look at whats going wrong there,and make our nights more "happening",with more push to others,also missing are the photo,s on here which used to attract others,think of the birthday nights,and the fancy dress night,these nights need to be a two way street with the carvery and HTers,maybe both parties are somewhat remiss,

yes, I agree Clif we may need to look at our own part in things as well also as you say its well attended for the quiz and i am told that it is also very busy on a wed night (other than HT'ers) so something there must be right ??...cant see the point in changing for changes sake...we have had some great meets there in the past this is only a recent issue and lets face it it does tend to happen after a while anywhere ..they get complacent/take advantage ... by the way irish coffees there have always been extortionate all the yrs, i have been going... i never buy them there for that reason....

Chilly