Bear fighting and bull-baiting were popular entertainment once, as were public executions, but we've moved on a bit now.

Aslemma wrote:

Bear fighting and bull-baiting were popular entertainment once, as were public executions, but we've moved on a bit now.

So true Aslemma, but seems like though some have moved on many haven't

It's like a race to the bottom now of the most base level TV they can show. I'd rather they didn't make this stuff in the first place, as many don't seem to have the intellect to reach for the off button and think quality TV is scouring the streets to find someone who has once taken a 'morning after pill'. Not quite sure what is entertaining about that, more like a sad kind of voyuerism

Doe

And wasn't the original discussion in part sparked by the issue of whether they should have been allowed to advertise for participants here on HT rather than the merits of the programme it'll?

SM

allowing for the fact that they DID advertise on here, anyone know if they actually got any response from HT'ers.
I very much doubt it!

del949 wrote:

allowing for the fact that they DID advertise on here, anyone know if they actually got any response from HT'ers.
I very much doubt it!

Doubt it Del, can't believe we are the required demographic. Don't think the morning after pill was around in my day !

Doe

My sentiments entirely Doe. I often struggle to find anything worth watching on TV these days.

Regarding us being the 'required demographic', we are told that HT is growing, with new members, so these may be the kind of people for whom they are looking, rather than those of us who have contributed to HT over so many years, who would be unlikely to touch a programme like this with a bargepole.

I completely agree these sort of posts bring nothing to HT. I have since been asked many times for permission to post which have been denied.

Hopefully shows that damage tourism and bring nothing to the table will soon fizzle out!

MilleMiglia wrote:

Sanji wrote:

Wonder whatever happened to Ed not visited since that post.?

Like everything else on this site -starting off in a blaze of glory and fizzling out.

'Live and let live' and knowing where the 'off button' is, is completely missing the point.
No Its NOT this is a discution forum and thats my opinion. :evil:

Yep, this is a discussion forum and that also means that I'm entitled to an opinion.
And whether or not, I, you, or anyone else likes this type of programme or we know where the 'off- button' is situated, this was not the gist of the initial replies made by myself and others in this thread.

It was about HT being used as a platform for promoting this type of programme, because Ed wanted to keep his friends happy at Dragonfly TV, and as time has proven, encouraging young individuals to perform acts of debauchery for a few Euros - he thought that was OK, well I for one didn't then and still don't.

Sanji

Hi Sanji,

Just for clarification neither HT or Ed received money for this post and nor do anyone at HT have friends at Dragonfly TV.

Cheers, Phil

Hi Phil.
I wasn't insinuating that anybody got paid - and at the time I was questioning why HT was being used as a platform for the good people of Dragon Fly TV (Ed's opinion that they are good people, not mine.)

From the blog he wrote.....

Good luck with your quest for stardom and by all means let your old friends at Holiday Truths know how you get on.

Right, so did we want to know about youngsters getting wasted, performing acts of debauchery and ending up either in a police cell or A&E.?
It sucked of doubled standards and went against everything that HT has stood for - and I might add, the censorship and rules that we have to follow. ( or try to follow)

Sanji x

Hi Sanji,

Its ok I just wanted to to clarify that we dont recieve payment for these sorts of posts or any posts for that matter.
I think its hard to pin point exactly know what the producers wanted to create when they requested that we put out a post like this. All I can say is like I said above we havent allowed posts like this for some time and I cannot see this changing for the forseeable future. I have infact turned down many emails from companies requesting permission to post about their tv show.

Cheers, Phil

I was watching a programme the other week , think its called " emergency , what's your number " and its about the emergency services and what they have to cope with , and you don't need to go to a sunny foreign place or have producer/ programme makers egging on / setting up drunken behaviour , you can just go to Blackpool and see British people behaving like this with no prompting , ( I think they also feature other seaside resorts ) , so this must be a good practice ground for us Brits to then export this brand of how we entertain ourselves , I doubt the programme makers have to try too hard .

I have little interest in watching these programmes , but they are a reflection on how SOME people act , and I know I acted in this way xxx years ago , having holidays with friends and enjoying going out drinking , partying and , I thought it was fairly normal behaviour for a 20 year old bloke , I didn't go on organised holidays and didn't need anyone to egg me on to do something stupid ( we were all capable of that naturally) , luckily there was no TV cameras following us around , it would be embarrassing to see it now , I do agree that these type of TV programmes can exploit people when they are most vulnerable and while its ok to be in a situation like that with your closet friends you don't really want everyone else seeing you like that and then be subjected to the media attention it generates .

The newspaper reporting of this does make me laugh , they are happy to moralise about people making a story of people drinking , having sex , which though distasteful and unpleasant are legal while they stop at nothing to make a story , even breaking the law to hack mobiles etc , so is their view worth anything ?

andy66 wrote:

, so is their view worth anything ?

No it isn't. According to someone I know who has been to one of these type of resorts recently, there are plenty of drunken, Scandinavian, Russian and German kids as well out partying.

Wonder if their gutter press (do they have gutter press) make a big deal of this kind of voyueristic reporting? Think I can guess the answer to that, most others do t wash their dirty linen in public even though they know its there.

Doe

Sorry HT Mods but I think you have shot yourself in the foot with this one.

The decision to allow this post was NOTHING to do with the mod's

The decision to allow this post was NOTHING to do with the mod's

My apologies - I should have said "Management"

As for the fact we are not seeing Scandinavian, Russian and German kids it is simple - UK TV shows Brits behaving badly as that is what drags in the viewers (not me I must add) but then discussion of TV programmes in general is not what we are on about.

Back then I said "We used to claim we were THE quality site for help and advice." and I would like to see us once again achieve that distinction.
Far better if these companies were recruiting our members to to offer a balanced viewpoint rather than the sensationalism they offer up.
I read this. There are three sides to any story. One side, then the other and finally the truth!

Many of the stories we read on HT only offer one side and it is very rare we hear the other, never mind the truth.

fwh

Thanks for your feedback guys.

I've locked this topic now so that it doesn't drag on any further than it needs to.

Cheers, Phil