YAHOOOOOOOOO!!!. Today we recieved the ultimate news our CC company are going to refund us. We are one of those unfortunate people who paid part cc and part cheque, as you would know if you had read our earlier postings. One of my clients who actually gives seminars to Bank and Building Soc. staff, gave us the advise that we should not worry about the refund we will get our money back, because we had paid partly with our cc. we would get our money back under section c 75. We went along to our bankers (with whom we hold all our accounts and cc) and was told we had to claim part from them and part from CAA/ATOL. So thinking they knew what they are talking about we did as we were told. We got our deposit back very promptly from cc company. Then forwarded the paperwork on to CAA/ATOL. As all the paperwork was aimed towards this method of refund we naturally thought they knew what they were doing. Six months later, hundreds of fruitless phone calls and just e-mail, mail sweep answers later, all our paperwork was returned to us stating we had to claim from the cc company under section c75. Where have I heard this before. Hey, we thought these people really don't know what they are doing, why were we not told this in the begining, as it is the law and they must know what they are doing, NOT. So six months down the line we are in exactly the same spot that we were six months ago. CAA/ATOl are shirking their responsibilites, taking monies saying we will protect you, and then when they have to pay out desparately trying to get out of paying. Doesn't that sound just like insurance companies. CC companies saying 'never heard of section C75' they are completely ignorant of this law. This is the biggest problem you are going to hit because they are oblivious of this law, they pass you from pillar to post because they don't know what else to do. If I had not persisted in the telephone calls to my cc company this would never have come to pass. We finally got through to someone who 'LISTENED'. We had learnt so much through my client and the internet. We were educating the line manager of our cc company. We told her, 'this is coming at ya' because the CAA/ATOL have started sending back the paperwork after 6 months and believe me we would not be the last cusomters you hear from in this department. I have to admit she was excellent, she listened and took on board what we were saying. We faxed all the relavent paperwork to her and she put this through as a claim for us, because they never had the correct claims paperwork in place having never had to deal with this before. We had to give her the website addresses so she could read about section c75 for herself. We then stated that if for any reason we were going to be turned down we would need a signed letter of 'final response' so we could then get in touch with the ombudsman. Apparently if the ombudsman have to get involved and the bank or cc company is found to be at fault it is an automatic fine of £500.
Hope this is helpful to anyone who is trying to claim in the same manner. BE PERSISTANT and FIRM. We cannot believe how unethical, unhelpful, unprofessional and useless the CAA/ATOL are, they need to have a look at the whole infastructure of the way they conduct their business. They should put their customers first as we are the people who make it possible for them to exist. Answered Customer help lines would be a start.
Kath x
hi kath-ht.admin. thanks very much we have found this website really helpful, and have recommended it to others.regards john
Your very welcome. So glad you are sorted.
Well done. Sounds like it was a nightmare. So glad you finally got it sorted, it beggars belief that credit card companys claim not to know about Section c 75. After all it doesn't just apply to holidays. I kind of assumed they would have a seperate office just to deal with this type of claim and they would be specialists in their field.
hi doepsmic to be fair to the credit card company,if the dispute was just about a claim using a credit card it is normally straightforward, our problem was that we payed the deposit for our holiday with our cc and the balance with a cheque. this is where the problem begins, because the cc company only deals with the plastic side, not the cheque side of the buisness.there was not even any claims paperwork ,in place for our type of claim,or any special department that could help us. the line manager for the cc company was oblivious to this type of claim,and she had worked for the cc company for a number of years,what a nightmare
I thought it applied to a sofa the same as a holiday, but perhaps I don't understand the ins and outs.
Still the main thing is you are sorted. and you can look forward to and
XL Reply to above posting...I never did get any money refunded and could never get them to answer letters or calls, my bank was denying they should do anything and sent me to a Travel Agent but they said they did not have any numbers or address to give me, I had no help whatsoever from anyone and eventually I just gave up trying. I lost nearly £3000. including the cost of my insurance to protect me from loss, but they too denied that they had any responsibility to help me or pay me anything at all. Were they all right and I was just to loose all the money I had paid in good faith to take my 8 year old daughter on the holiday of her dreams, Disney in Florida. Can you imagine her face just for a minute when I told her we had lost the holiday and were no longer going, I thought my heart would break! Why can people get away with this and how they treated us? Is there anything I can still do at this point, being so long since I could actually learn others got money back and how, which I tried but failed to get anything refunded at all. I still have no idea how to ring up anyone to help or talk to. Can anyone reply please? Thanks
Hi Kath, how did you get your refund please. I never did and eventually got a note saying the £i.75 was all I was going to get after everyone was paid out. Great after paying£2850,00. Any advice for me please? Zoe
XL went bust whilst we were in Cyprus, so we had already used outbound flight (they had subcontracted it to Air Malta). Went to travel agent across road from hotel and found two single flights back to UK on our actual departure date. Paid over £600 on credit card. Got back home and contacted company where we'd booked flights who sent forms for us to complete and return to CAA. I also wrote covering letter. Sent by recorded delivery. Heard nothing for a couple of weeks when CAA sent claim reference number. Decided to 'phone them after about a month and was told case was being assessed. I advised I would call them again after another 4 weeks. In the meantime I found one boarding pass stub which I sent to them with a follow-up letter, again recorded delivery. Followed up with 'phone call about a week later to say they had attached it to my file and were still assessing.
Got 'phone call from a CAA Manager one Sunday morning, about 5 months after submitting original claim. He said he had a couple more questions for me and then advised that he had the cheque in front of him for authorisation of my refund. It arrived about 5 days later.
Fully understand that lots of people got shunted around between credit card companies and CAA, but in my opinion, if you've paid two different ways then CAA should be refunding the total amount not your credit card company.
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