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Not wanting to get into an argument, but I know of a recent case in 2008 where someone was prosecuted by the C&E. He won his case and the magistrate actually hammered C&E for bringing the case and wasting time. A long story short, there was only one real winner, the guys brief. He knew the system, played with it, got the case adjourned on several occasions and no doubt got a lot of cash out of it - at the taxpayers expense.
Cigarettes, tobacco, spirits are no different to anything else as long as tax has been paid in an European state.
Guidelines are only guidlines and it does make sense in a way to work around these to prevent problems.

I'll admit that I get a trifle annoyed when some smart alec says there is no limit


There is NO limit anymore as long as tax has been paid, the Spanish have an old rule which wouldn't stand up if used, that's if they still have it. They are also part of the European movement and thus have to abide as well as the British. They can't have it both ways.

No argument from me and you can hammer me if you want, but that's how I see it. People will abuse the system, all systems get abuse and ciggies etc. is no different. I would always stick to the guidlines though myself if only to save myself from wasting my time. Though in lots and lots of trips abroad I think I have been stopped and questioned twice, once from Prague and once from Tenerife. Both times I was within the guidlines and gave them a nice smile and thanked them for their service.

Robby :wink:
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OK I think everyone has had their say. Please stop the points scoring.

We want members and guests to be able to find the information they are looking for easily. The most recent question was asking was the "allowance" was. I think it has become clear that the guidelines suggest 3200 cigarettes per person. It is entirely up to the individual whether they adhere to the guidelines or not.

I would hate to see this topic locked when it would then drop down the forum. Any further posts perpetuating this "discussion" will be deleted.

luci :wave
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Sorry, but I'm getting fed up of this, nobody is point scoring, both Robbie and I have been around long enough to know when things get out of hand, the topic gets locked.
We were having a civilised adult discussion about the allowances/guidlelines.
I was actually going to post the relevant information from the European Union/Brussels to clarify the situation and the point about each member state being able to impose guidelines with the regards to tobacco products.
The 800 rule applying to Spain, well it is still in force and can be enforced as per the EU.

This wasn't to "point score", it was to clarify the statement that there are "no limits"...when clearly there are.

You allow a poster to tell us that he's in court over this issue, but you don't want an intelligent response.

Fine !!!!!!!

Sanji
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Luci is correct, this topic is starting to get boring and out of hand and of no use to anyone at all. Please remember moderators are here for a reason and challenging them really doesn't help.

Sarah
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eurotbaco up by indoor market,next street towards the beach,dose not charge for credit card.if you go on eurotabbaco website you will get all the prices and also the exchange rate on that day.pedbookie
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They may not charge commission, but they charge a mark up on the exchange rate!

I bought cigs at the Eurochange on Av Mediterraneo. I asked if there was a commission charge for using a credit card and was told there was no commission. She told me the total in euros and had a bit of a faff with the machine before I had to put my PIN in.

I have since looked at my receipt and it states quite clearly on it that, "I accept that I have been offered a choice of currencies for payment. I accept the conversion rate amount & that the final selected transaction currency is Libra Esterlina".

I can assure you that the above statement is wholly inaccurate as I was never given the option and it was never mentioned.

I used my Nationwide credit card and they still managed to charge me in sterling. Granted the difference isn't huge, but that's not the point. It's the principle of the thing. With her faffing at the machine I couldn't have been paying attention to the amount on the screen I was agreeing to. My receipt is in the correct euro amount, it's the credit card receipt that's "wrong".

It does indeed state "Commission - 0". However under that it states "Tipo de cambio mark-up, 2.00%" so they didn't charge me commission, but charged me 2% on the exchange! It wasn't a lot of money as I didn't buy much, but for those buying the full guideline amount it would mount up.

It doesn't matter to me if it was a difference of £2 or £20, as I said before it's the principle not the amount.

I'm usually switched on with these things so I'm posting this as a warning to others to make double and treble sure that you are being charged in the correct currency.

luci :wave
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:( I see that JPS Black, silver and red have all gone up €1.50 to €24.50 for 200

http://www.eurotabaco.net/

Sue :)
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yes just the jps all 24 .5o euros ,i am in benidorm now.typing this from the flamingo oasis, all the other brands have stayed the same.and the golden virginia same price too,
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It would only be £21.875 on todays rate if you used the Nationwide flex card which uses the visa corporate rate. http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_services/consumer_ex_rates.jsp?src=ex_rez

Sandie
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hi, does anyone know how much it is now for a sleeve of soverighn ciggarretts :cheers
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no fag shops charge for credit now,plus with chip and pin you don;t need to take your passport with you.when i was there a few weeks ago the shop on the beach front,were doing loads of free gifts if you buy say 4/6 boxes.drinks/t shirts ect.
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djwoody.
which one is that, is it at the levante end.
like phil the clown used to say "if its free, its for me"
:tup
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yes thats the one.i was loads of stuff wrapped to packets.i got a few bottles and t shirts.i gave a few away as a thank you.to hotel saff
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Regarding the cigarette shops that charge for using your card I have often wondered
if it is some kind of scam as the charges vary from shop to shop .
Also you have to pay the charge in cash separate from the bill .
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when they did charge it was added to your bill and not in cash.
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I have used Tabaccos's in the past that have charged me cash up front for using a card. I now always go to the one on the front as they don't charge any extra regardless of how you pay and they don't convert your payment to stirling thus getting a better rate as well as freebies sometimes. ;)

I wasn't aware that the others no longer made a surcharge for paying by card, when did this change?

Sue :)
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well not sure but i always ask first.up on looking at my bill its says 2.5% included no commission.i paid 273.00 euro ok.thats £244.24 for what i had at a rate of 117754eur on my nationwide card.i did use the shop near the triangle as well.plus top up at shop outside airport,in ibiza they do chagre you for useing cards around 2%
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