Just returned from a two week holiday, one weeks cruise down the Nile and a week in Luxor. I would like to warn future visiters of a few cons/tricks that I think WILL be tried by some locals to get money off them. (These were all done to me and other people I was with). The first trick to be wary of is that after you have paid for something and left the shop, the shopkeeper/taxi driver/waiter etc. will run after you and complain that amongst the notes that you have paid is a 50p note (5p) instead of a LE£50 (£5) and demand that you exchange it, sometimes in front of a crowd of their friends! I fell for this one TWICE. I think it is a good idea to count notes out very carefully and deliberately in front of them.
Another way we were tricked is when we took a couple of pairs of shorts to be dry cleaned, a price of LE£17 (£1.7) was agreed, when I went the )next day I was told that I owed LE£70.(£7). This was the place close to Bar 2000.
And of course there is the Collech drivers that will agree to a price and at the end of the trip will insist that the price was for each person!
In Luxor there was always a mother and a baby begging on the pavement, the baby crying for food and the mother showing the empty bottle, it was after a few days that we realised that the mother was pinching her baby to make him cry each time we approached.
I understand that Egypt is a poor country and that a great many people depend on tourists and also not everyone will try to fleece us, but please be warned.
Unfortunately it seems that you had all of the various tricks pulled on you in one week! Of course not all-Egyptian traders will try to cheat you but certain elements seem to be the biggest offenders. Caleche drivers are notorious for trying to rip people off, the same is true of some taxi drivers. The best advice I can offer to other people is to make sure before you even get in, or allow them to take your luggage, is the price that you have agreed upon and what exactly that is for. Make very exaggerated gestures when referring to the rest of the people with you and say for example " Thirty pounds Egyptian, OK? Not English!" (Shaking your head) Then point to everyone and say "for everyone" (makes an embracing gesture with your hands) Make sure that you include your luggage in the transaction. As to where you are going, say something like: "Karnak temple, no alabaster shop, no camel market, no visit to your brothers shop, OK?" He will probably just laugh and think that you are as crafty as he is. The best way to deal with a shouting shopkeeper is to walk away or to attract the attention of the (blue/black uniformed) police. It is very unlikely that you will be physically threatened but should this happen, just hand over some money (as you would in the UK) then seek out the police as above and report it to them. I find the starving baby trick the most disturbing, I have wrestled with my conscience on a number of occasions, was it really a trick? Had I ignored a starving baby? The answer is no I didn't. I have now seen this particular trick quite a few times and she often has a different baby each night. It is best to be fore warned that these tricks do happen, but it should also be kept in perspective. Not everyone in Egypt is trying to rip you off, some will, but most will not. Like everyone else they are just trying to earn a living.
Tez
Another trick for others to be aware of is the 'letter' scam where a guy will stop you & ask you to read a letter for him from his English friend or even to pen a reply for him. This is merely to get you into his shop/cafe etc to part with your money! These are all mere irritations though & should not put anyone off visiting this wonderful place with all the history it has to offer.
It was about now that I was thinking of a subtle way of extricating myself from the situation. So when the conversation turned to what my job was in the UK, I said 'policeman' and that my opposite number in the Cairo fraud squad had arranged an exchange visit to Egypt for us both. We very soon found ourselves politely shown the door as my new friend had urgent business to attend to. Strangely enough my 'guide' also disappeared. I had to ask a real policeman to show us the way back to our hotel! We all live and learn.
Tez
Briar, why is F.R.A.U.D. filled in with ***** ?
I think Egypt is a very interesting place, I'm very glad we went, but I don't think it's for us. Back to Turkey in September.
Phil, sorry that Egypt did not suit you but look at it this way. If you do go again you will know all the tricks and like the rest of us treat it as a challenge.
My advice is just to be very assertive, let people know that the price you agree is final & that you will not be hassled about it later. It's true, wages are very poor here, & the life is not easy for the local people. So be polite but as I say assertive & I'm sure you will enjoy & not feel threatened in any way. I'm from the UK & I feel safer here than I have ever done back home. Happy holidays to anyone travelling here.
we did get hassle, but it all seemed quite light hearted to be honest and not sinister as the OP seemed to have felt. we did get invited into shops to chat but we weren't locked in and rarely bought things. we sat and chatted and drank mint tea or coke with the shopkeeper and friends and learnt a great deal about Egyptian life.
one thing that might of helped us though is that we were two couples and so felt very comfortable in these situations.
please don't be put off by these experiences, after all some of the beggars and charity muggers in the UK can be just as menacing!
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