I'll add my bit for you all.. Riding in India takes a little getting used to, thankfully up to now I have not had an accident, but live with the feeling it will happen, and unfortunately in my case it's probably not going to be very nice when it happens as I do drive a bit quickly (for over here). That aside it's great to drive over here. I love it, I ride every day and have clocked up 12,000 Kms since December so I do get around. I was also driving last year every day for six months so you can without having an accident but I am a very confident driver (I'm not saying good) and this helps alot! When you drive here you need to 'own' the road, people will take advantage of you if you give way and that's how it works. If you hold your ground you can even get the biggest bus or lorry to back down, although there's still the occasional one who won't shift, but as you've held your ground you still have room to manover rather than going to the side to let them pass and then they take even more of the road up and you're run off the road. Also a few other things that it's good to know...
1. Flashing your headlights.. This means that I'm coming through so please get out of the way, the longer you leave it on the more serious you are... Works 90% of the time with most vehicals..
2. Beeping your horn... Many tourists say 'why do they do it so much', ok some do do it FAR to much like a guy last night who just kept his finger on it for ages.... But it is required as it means 'I'm here' as most Indians DO NOT look when they join roads or overtake or at roundabouts or even walking down the road, they think it's the other drivers job to look for them, hense the horn.
3. As mentioned above, don't expect drivers who don't have right of way in England to stop for you in Goa, T Junctions, Roundabouts (Circles) etc they just keep on going, normally without looking! So be careful
4. Watch out for dogs, monkeys, cows ( I had one do a little dance in front of me once, that was a close call ), snakes etc..
5. My personal tip is to drive faster than everybody else (Safely though) as then you only need to worry about the people in front rather than front and back.
It is worth it, to be legal you need an international driving licence (very easy to get hold of £4 from RAC website), own or 'borrowed' a bike and have the papers for the said bike. Most bikes that you rent aren't legal as they have to pay the government to rent bikes out and hardly anyone does so it's always your friends bike. Also if you don't have a bike licence in the UK your international licence won't cover you for bikes.... Also most holiday insurance won't cover you for driving bikes, if they do then they will expect you to be wearing a helmet which isn't required in Goa unless you're riding on the Highways (eg NH17)..
Hope this helps, but before I go, a little fact, I know more people who have ridden bikes and have had accidents than I know who haven't... BUT nearly always simple scrapes mainly due to not being confident. It's your choice...
Flippin 'eck Shem, I wouldn't like to get in your way on the roads Think I'll stick to my push bike over there, nice and steady, but the advice you and the others have given is excellent.
And... Yes police are starting to enjoy the process of taking bikes of people especially when they aren't parked in the right place in Panjim or Mapusa...
Yes you should come here to Goa with an International driving licence and carry it with you at all times ALONG with your UK licence when riding a scooter here. One thing worthy of note is that the laws have just changed and so hiring a scooter will be a little more regulated from this season on. In the past anyone used to give you a bike for hire (totally illegal), to legally hire one out you had to own 8 vehicles and have them all on yellow and black numberplates (like the taxis). To stop the dangerous practice of anyone giving you a scooter, they have now introduced a sceme where you only need 1 bike to legally hire it. That howere MUST be registered, tax must be paid on it and it MUST be on yellow and black number plates. If you hire one this season that is not on yellow and black plates then be prepared to be stopped every 5 minutes by the Police. Lots of local people are talking about putting their bikes on the new plates so dont worry, there will be more than enough about.
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I have heard that there is a problem with insurance. It is now not possible to hire a scooter unless it has been issued with a yellow plate. Is this true and does the same apply to cars? Anybody had any problems this season?
My friend has just returned from Goa and says you really do need to get an inetrnational drivers licence if your going to hire a scooter as poeple are being stopped and fined 500 rupees. We have hired one every year without obtaining a licence. I'm a bit worried now as I don't want to be stopped. Also, is it correct that you need to hire one with yellow number plates? We usually hire it from the bell boys at our hotel and always insist on a newish bike as it should be safer. Any info would be appreciated. Tracy
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Thanks GFF. Do I still need to carry the papers with me if I'm not going on the highways?
YES, carry all papers at all times, in fact don't hire a scooter unless the papers are given to you. If you get stopped you may be asked to produce Licence, ownership papers, insurance docs and the paperwork that proves that the bike is licenced to be hired out. On the other hand you may not be asked for any of these things but it is the law to carry them so best to be on the safe side.
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I emailed the place in Panjim that adevrtises hired scooters on the web (legally, with insurance), but they never got back to me. Anyone know if it is still available from any companies in Goa?
I love driving here, although I understand the dangers, I think most people should at least spend a few days observing the traffic or being on the back of someone who has been driving here a while to get a feel for it, to understand people don't look, don't signal, drive in random directions. Thankfully so far I've been lucky, driving pretty much ever day for 3 and a half years and the only accident I've had in Goa is a grazed toe. (old man on an old bike turned *without signalling with hand or indicator* as I was over taking him... Slammed the breaks on, didn't stop as quickly as I hoped (it was wet during the monsoon) everyone was fine, bike had a little scratch....
If you do drive over here so do need confidence as people will try and take the whole road up...
Probably been said before but you need international driving licence (available from RAC/AA in the UK, Insurance papers, emissions report if the bike is over 1 year old, owners book (registration book) - I think that's it... I once had a policeman say that my internation driving licence was only valid in the UK! - Some will try anything to get money out of you!
Hope that helps
.to understand people don't look, don't signal, drive in random directions
But it works, in some strange fashion(most times). We scooter around when we're there, and if someone wants to overtake (which they invariably do) we let 'em. They'll always be stuck in the jam, further up the road anway.
I've found the 'rule of the road' the locals subscribe to, is....if there's something in front of you, OVERTAKE IT - and if there isn't OVERTAKE IT ANYWAY!!
There was one occasion when we were approaching a very narrow bridge ( which could only take traffic in one direction; at a squeeze a car and a scooter). The oncoming traffic was just about on the bridge, and you'll never guess what I saw in my rear view mirror. Yup, a car trying to OVERTAKE!! Where was he gonna go?? He soon realized that there was NOWHERE to go, so had to drop back. This is just ONE of many, many examples of 'driving' in Goa .
In wet conditions they drive just the same; at night - the same; at night and in the wet - just the same!
We never saw any accidents whilst we were there - we just heard about 'horrendous' happenings at Calangute roundabout, from the guy at Guru Jewels.
Ive never hired one before, but im a bit on edge because they're all nutters driving in Goa
Im thinking of hiring a scooter for a few days whilst im in Goa next year.
Ive never hired one before, but im a bit on edge because they're all nutters driving in Goa
Don't do it.
I've been riding motorbikes for 45 years - yet riding in Goa worries me
Even athough I only ride at a fraction of the speed I normally ride at in UK.
Rent a car - you can get one for 600-800 Rs per day. You'll find that other drivers will make room for a car - whereas on the bike they'll try to push you off the road. I've lost count of the number of times I've had an altercation with a taxi driver for cutting in and nearly knocking me off.
Last year I saw a local who had been knocked off his scooter by another driver - the local bus following him, then ran over his head. Not nice.
To: "yummymummy" If you read this entire topic (unless you already have?) you'll get some VERY good advice. You'll also read of incidents and accidents, but hopefully the thread will help you decide whether or not to go for a scooter.
However, if you don't ride a bike in the UK - why on earth would you even contemplate riding one in India
By the way check that your holiday insurance allows you to ride a bike.
I might just hire a scooter for a couple of days.
What also worrys me, is in the UK if you dont have any insurance etc and the police stop you, they take you to the police station and charge you dont they? do they do the same in India?
I dont fancy being locked up in an Indian jail
If stopped you must have the vehicle registration documents - since last year there is a new number plate required for rental vehicles.
All that you have to provide, is an International Driving Permit and they will let you go on your way.
Otherwise - be prepared for some hard bargaining over the backsheesh.
I was stopped a week or so back licence sir, in my hotel, you must carry your licence a fine of Rs450. I only have Rs250 in my wallet, so the offence was changed to overtaking on a bridge a fine of Ra100
I was stopped near Aguada jail on a white number plate Luckily I had my international permit and then had to explain that I borrowed the bike from my good friend in Vagator, "how much you pay him for hire" nothing I replied and after a little head shaking he let me on my way leaving my 200 rps baksheesh money still in my side pocket well worth getting the permit as it only costs about a fiver
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