what was it saying???
chilly

Is this it? http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-details/Bravo+2/9+September+2009/21:00/Big+Trouble+in+Tourist+Thailand/Documentary/

Spaldy said

Shiley v. Did you go to Sihanoukville in Cambodia? Ocheutual beach puts Calangute to shame!

Was there in March!

That's the one Betty

Yes thats the one - scared me to death Fizz

Betty Boop...What did you think? Did you enjoy it? I'll be back there in feb.

By the way Spaldy, I agree with what you said about the Goan police being sleazy - I realise every country has it's "not so pretty" side and we all have to be very aware when visiting places. I am sure that if I was to visit Thailand I would avoid certain areas that have a bad reputation but with corruption being rife in so many such countries it is so scary to think you could be enjoying yourself one minute, then banged up abroad the next. I know these things happen in Goa too but I think I feel fairly safe when there, however misguided that may be

Putting it into perspective programmes such as "banged up abroad" and "big trouble in Thailand" do tend to show the sensational side of things and doesn't help to represent these places in a good light, even programmes about youngsters in Tenerife whooping it up and flashing their bits doesn't help a countries reputation; add all this bad publicity to the credit crunch, greedy travel companies and airlines reducing flights no wonder places like Goa are suffering a downturn in visitor numbers. To stay on topic, it's not all down to Goa pricing itself out of the market. Fizz

we were in thailand during the tnusami,and believe me the town officials were amazing they got us out in 24 hrs with the option of going home or getting us to an area that wasn,t affected.

Just booked for March 2010. Got a good price for a new hotel in Baga called the Nazri. There are obviously good bargains to be had but you just have to keep looking.

i'm going to Sihanoukville in Cambodia in November!! can't wait

mmmmmmm Candy that is very high on my list of places to go, looking forward to hearing all about it

Candy off to Sihanoukville myself in Nov 15th to 26th when are you there?

Sihanoukville... looks good. How far from the main airport?

It's about 3 and half hour's by coach.

All very interesting as we are thinking of going next year but it's time this thread was moved to the Thailand forum !!!!!!!

Or even give Cambodia it's own forum it certainly deserves it

Anyway, I'm sure to give Goa a miss this winter.

It's got to be Thailand, Cambodia or Vietnam.

I'll be back to Goa in a few years, if it has cleaned up it's act.

Try a tour of Kerala if you haven't been. Wonderful and currently cheaper to fly to than Goa using Qatar.

Thanks for the advice Dave, I will probably try Kerala in the next year or two. I'm pretty sure it's going to be Thailand this winter, I've been costing it out and I know it will be more expensive than Goa but by all accounts it's going to be a heck of a lot cleaner.

Back to topic 'Is Goa pricing itself out of the market ?' ... Yes it is unless they clean the place up, I personally would pay more if the place was kept in order... but that's not going to happen. Goa is still VERY cheap, but I'm a great believer in 'you get what you pay for'. General hygiene and litter/environment issues must be maintained in Goa if it wants to get return tourists. They have had around 20 years + to develop tourism and the Govn' seems to have exploited it to the max. It is getting harder and harder to find a CLEAN area of Goa to chill out around.... sad to see moves around Morjim (North of Turtle Beach) towards over development.

I can't disagree that it is still cheap to get a 2 week holiday in the sun in Goa but what are we talking about the difference in price to go to Thailand... £200 - £300 per 2 week/person difference? Long flight.... Yes but Emirates is pure comfort.... Monarch .... the Ryanair of long haul... NEVER AGAIN.

I'm just back from a week (non package DIY) in Croatia.... fantastic (like a cleaner and more laid-back Greece).... very peaceful. Would recommend to anyone

i know i,m but having lived in thailand for a considerable time i,m not sure where you get the idea it will be cleaner,havn,t been to goa yet but i have seen terrible filth in places in bangkok,koh samui chang mai etc,having said that we will definatly be going back .