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Gixer

Nobody can disagree, this is what you experienced end of story.

I'm so sorry you had a terrible holiday, sounds a nightmare from beginning to end :(

I'm going to Sharm at the end of next month, if the FC reps try and bully me into buying a visa (I won't be travelling so won't need one) then God help them.

I hope you and your family recover and are able to put it behind you soon.

Philippa :D
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sounds like a dreadful holiday. Nobody will "hate" you for your opinions- you did experience it. You should add a hotel review to the site- it will help others hopefully.
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Gixer. what an aweful experience for you and your family. views like yours are needed to get an overall balance of a place.

we're going back to sharm in november and i think we'll have to make the most of it as i've read about changes that will start to happen next year. medot.xx
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Hi,
Sorry to hear about your health problems in sharm, are you over it or still suffering?
Did you go in the hotel pool? I went in first day - wife did not - I ended up with more than a gyppy Tummy. I have only just finished a course of antibiotics and am still awaiting the results from doctors. Did you go with Thomas Cook? Who was your rep?
We were a few hotels over from Dreams, in the Club Fanara in May. Must say the staff at the hotel were great along with most of the facilities apart from the Management and the god awful rep (much too busy to help, plenty of time to sell excursions etc).
I would agree with you regarding the way anyone who ventures out of the hotel gets treated. We went on the FREE bus to Namma Bay and were dropped right into the lions den took half an hour to get out of the shop. That's the Egyptian way though, or so we are told; NO IT'S NOT because once you get off the main strip some of the shops are quite nice with no one dragging you off the street (these are the shops we spent our money in).
At least the security guys in our hotel were honest my wife lost her watch and they found it and returned it when we reported it to the receptionist.

Hey, what are NEEDED is balanced honest opinions on both side of the camp, what happened to you and your family (and us) may not happen to everyone. To those it does happen to the travel industry should sit-up and take note! It's very funny Thomas Cook says they NEVER get any complaints and we are the only ones. How strange!

we're going back to sharm in november and i think we'll have to make the most of it as i've read about changes that will start to happen next year. medot.xx

BTW Medot What have you heard?
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Hey Gixer,

After watching the build up to your previous holiday in Taba and hearing how much you enjoyed it, what a b*mmer to hear about your trip to Sharm!

You certainly shouldn't worry about making negative comments when you feel they are justified. Whilst we all realise that some people will love a particular hotel there will always be those who don't. It is very interesting to note your comments about the way Thomas Cook handled the visa situation and the theft of your money. I think both are unforgiveable!

Glad to hear it hasn't put you off Egypt altogether and that you would return to Taba. You should also try Nuweiba, you would love it there.

Kind regards,

Roger.
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Hi EddieGremlin,

We travelled with Thomas Cook and our rep's name was Chris, I whole heartedly agree with your comment about the rep's being to busy to help beacused they are trying to sell their over priced trips.
When the rep was putting our complaint form back in his folder my husband said "Jeez, thats an awful lot of complaint forms youve got in there" at which point he proceeded to read them all out to us (57 in total) so much for privacy and professionalism, I have written to Thomas Cook about this already.
As for having money stolen, Im sure other people have had things go missing but didnt find out until they got home, I only found out because I sent my hubby to get my bag back.
I think the majority of people in the hotel got sick, the doctor must be making a fortune. Both hubby and me went to the doctors when we got home and have been given a course of antibiotics, we will have to wait 2 weeks for the test results. We are both still Sick and have been treated for dehydration. I havent eaten anything since monday and am still to scared to! Our doctor has advised us to eat 2 tablespoons of plain white steamed rice when we feel upto it. Hubby had that today at lunch but I couldnt face it. He seems ok so far, stomach cramps but not rolling round in agony.

Thanks to everyone who has left a kind message, the only response I was expecting was "we love Sharm and dont you dare say anything bad about the place now get the hell off our site" So Thanks once again xx
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Eddie gremlin :shock:

the news i've heard is on this post http://www.holidaytruths.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=35864
its about a new "aqua park" being built. just how big its going to be i don't know but i can see more of this sort of thing to follow in the future.
medot.xx
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I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience, but I've been thinking this is the way Sharm may been going for the last two years, and the advent of the 'Red Sea Riveria' as an ad slogan wil help people associate it as a year round 'Costa'.

I hope I dont offend too many british who like and respect spain, but over commercialisation is not helping Egypt, but I guess businesses will always value profit rather than people, which is a shame, since a lot of Egypt is still a lovely place to visit.
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how true is this waterpark thing with dolphin show!(i read on the above
posts link) i am going cosidering booking hilton sharm dreams for next may and this will be a big factor in me going i hate animal cruelty and avoided dolphinella so i will absolutely die it i find a dolphin show at my hotel!!!!! any updates about it would be great
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Sorry to hear you had a bad holiday. I went to Dream Beach for 2 weeks at the beginning of May we the 4 of us had a amazing time. Thought the food, drink and hotel was very good.
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Hi There, sorry you didnt have the holiday you saved hard for. With your experiences can you tell me this quote

Russian prostitues and drug dealers were everywhere. my husband was offered women and drugs even with me and the kids standing there!


Where was this in Naama Bay?? In the square or at the top near Naama bay Hotel?

I did find reading that part strange because all the shop owners we met and had drinks with were great, and we never saw anyone risque, or coming up to us.

Has anyone else found Prostitutes and Drugs? I would have thought they would have been hung, so to speak.

With your shop experience and the drugs/prostitute did you mention it to the Tourist Police that walk up and down Naama Bay all the time, a married bloke with a Moushtash?

I hope next time your holiday improves, i loved it there, so much so, we are booking up the same hotel.

Good luck :wink:
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Ref the drug/prostitutes situation,

The first time was when we were sitting having a shisha on the settes of Fawnees cafe just infront of the shopping mall, an egyption who called himself Ash (Ashref) who was highly educated and spoke several languages (his english was superb but with an american accent) he told us he was 37 and from Cairo origionally. By now we were quite used to people just stopping to talk to us or joining our table for no reason so we continued chatting for a while about Egypt, Sharm, Taba etc. The subject of Russians came up, at which point he turned to my husband and said I have 3 Russian girls working for me, would you like some business? He also told us that he has access to cocaine but that his client base for that is usually German tourists. Hash could be bought there and then off him for "asda price" He said his girls are always available and my hubby could find them by the cash point outside the bank next door to Pasha.
At which point I paid the check gave him a firm La shokran and left.
The second occasion was when my hubby went to the gents in the camel bar, an Italian guy in there introduced himself as Dino and asked if my hubby wanted to buy "powder" and that clean needles were no problem.

The next time we were in the bay was with the Taxi driver Mohammed that we used everyday, a great guy and a great friend, he took us down on his night off, this was the only time we didnt get any hassle was when we where walking around with him. He seemed to know everybody and had lots of cousins working there etc.
Ash came over to us again at the Fawnees cafe greeting us like long lost family, Mohammed gave him a few curt words in abrabic and Ash couldnt leave fast enough. Mohammed told us "he is bad man and I have told him to stay away from you my friends"
we also pointed out Dino to him who was hanging about ousite the Camel bar, mohammed told us Dino is well know and again to stay away, apparantly he is well known areound Sharm by the police but nobody does anything because his "big boss" is a VERY rich egyption from cairo who's main business is gun running. Weapons are traded on the black market and brought through Egypt to get them into Syria, Drugs are something he does "on the side"
None of this shocked me, it happens all over the world, money is money at the end of the day and in a big tourist resort like Sharm then drugs and prostitues can only be expected, just like anywere else.
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very interesting gixer. Sometimes a holiday is about a bit more than relaxation. You have seen into the "real" place, warts and all- and that in itself is an experience. I absolutely love going to Thailand, love the people there but I am well aware that corruption and unrest in places is rife. I only became aware of it by travelling there and then becoming interested enough to find out about it.
I went to Rio last year and loved the hotel, nice beach and great food but you need to LOOK and see people rifling through bins, be aware that you don't wear anything expensive( including your wedding rings) and go past the favelas to see the extreme poverty. A friend of mine is looking into going to Brazil for voluntary work and I will certainly be supporting anything he gets involved in.
I got a bit carried away there but what I meant to say is that you have been enriched by your holiday, and I think you won't look back very negatively upon it- that is obvious from your post.
Re the kind messages, HT members usually do not shoot anyone down in flames( yes it does happen occasionally!!)
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My son and his fiancee are in Sharm at the moment, though I don't know which hotel they are at. They have just phoned my daughter to say they have been extremely ill since the second day and think it was the food at the hotel. They wanted to come home but couldn't organise it and they are there for two weeks. They have had to pay £150 to move hotel and will be putting in a formal complaint on their return. They were so looking forward to their holiday. My daughter says she has heard of food poisoning in other hotels in Sharm recently.
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Hi briar,

I hope I havent put your family off to much or got them worried at all, there were people at the hotel who liked it and had a fantastic time, not everybodys experience was the same as ours.
I hope that by November things will be much quiter for them, the hotel was bursting at the seams when we were there. If they find the noise by the main pool to much then its well worth taking the walk down to Dreams Vacation. No music plenty of space, very relaxing. Its practically all Italian down there but they are all on HB so consequently the food tended to be of a much better quality. When people are paying up front for their lunch they are not going to accept slop, and you CAN use your AI wrist band down there.
Funny you should mention El Gouna, I have just been looking at the Sheraton Mirimar resort, I need to do a bit of research between there, Soma Bay and the new Movenpick at Taba, we are also seriously considering the Hilton Nuweiba. So much choice its so difficult trying to decide!

I hope your Family have a great time, I live by the rule of go and find out for yourself and draw your own conclusions, what is one mans poison is another mans paradise!

kindest Regards, Sam x
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Hi,
this question is really for EddieGremlin...you mentioned that you and your partner also suffered from stomach problems - which hotel did you stay at as you mentioned a couple, we are travelling to Club Fanara with 3 children and 1 OAP and am slightly worried about the pool re your comments...nothing worse than sick children on holidays - if there is an ongoing problem I would have no hesitation to rebook elsewhere,
Thanks
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Oh no I am going to the exact same hotel with my two boys in 2 weeks I have read nothing but good reviews and this is the first bad one I've read but it sounds absolutely awful. I have been on all inclusive holidays before but this will be my first time in egypt. I hope I have a better time than what you did or they'll be hell to pay.
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Does sound like you had a tough time in Sharm, Looks like that hotel is not worth a stay.
Often it is the hotel which can add that determining factor as to whether its a good or bad holiday.
I would def recommend stayinga the Four Seasons, Ritz or Hyatt, and wouldnt bother with any other Hotel
:cry: :roll: :?
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Tommy, please dont worry!

We had a bad experience but there were a lot of contributing factors.

We spoke to pleanty of people who liked the hotel and had a wonderful holiday, the place just wasnt our cup of tea, we prefer peace and quiet and utter relaxation when on holiday, and the constant noise of music and animation teams etc was just a bit to much for us, but plenty of people love that sort of thing on holiday, different horses for different courses as they say.

One important thing though is the fact that most people did get ill at some point during the holiday, my doctor has advised me since NEVER to eat rice from a buffet, apparantly its one of the worst things for nasty bacteria and food poisoning.
My kids didnt get sick once, but they didnt eat rice or chicken at all, they stuck to pasta, pizza etc.

One thing I can say is that I can highly recommend the pool bar for a meal in the evening, we didnt have one bad experience there.

If you like hustle and bustle, bars and nightlife then you will LOVE Namma bay.

Please look forward to your holiday, Im sure you will have a wonderful time, my intention when I wrote my report was not to cause anybody concern or alarm, but rather to give an account of our own personal experience.

The hotel and Resort in general was just not what we were after in a holiday, but everybodys prioritiess and preferences are different.

It will be interesting to read your trip report when you get back and compare the two!

Have a super time, Kindest regards, Sam
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