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you did a lot in your 3 weeks :D
We have done some of your trips- but others are new to us. It will certainly give ideas for our next trip.

Memo for next time:
we do NOT want to have lunch at the restaurants around Kintamani and Lake Bratan - overpriced buffets.

We kind of got stuck with that- and I had spent the night before being very sick and daren't have more than a spoonful :lol:
Tanah Lot- we liked it there but actually left just before sunset and went instead to a lovely beach nearby where we shared sunset with the locals.Where did you stay in Ubud? Would you recommend it?
Did you do your trips on your own or with a guide?
Sorry about all the questions!
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Hi Fiona
We did lots but also had lots of lazy days too.

What we always do when we arrive on holiday is to write all the days down and then all the trips we want to do and slot them in so we have a good mix of busy and relaxing.

What trips might you do next time?
We arranged most of our trips at a little place at the GBB, we actually used them the last time we went and were pleased to see they were still there.
The lady actually recognised us.
So we told her what we wanted to do and we had a car and a driver/guide.
He was good and explained lots about life generally in Bali.

We booked the Jogja trip at a diferent place but still within the GBB.
The price was US$235 each, less 10%.
That included pick-up at GBB, return air fare (excluding departure tax of 30,000 Rp), car, driver and guide at Jogja aiport, full day tour (from 08:30 am to 19:00), entrance fees into Borobudur, Prambanan, Sultan's Palace, lunch (which was FAR better than those at Kintamani etc) and pick-up and return to GBB.

I know Travelling Sam said you can get flights for £40 each way, but we thought it would be easier doing it as a package.

We stayed at the Panorama in Ubud.
It had lovely views over the rice terraces but wasn't of the same standard as the Waka Namya that you stayed at.
Having said that, we just wanted a base that was within walking distance of the centre so it was fine for us.
The rooms were clean and spacious.
We did worry about getting eaten alive by mozzies with all the water around but we were fine.
http://www.panoramabali.com/index.html

I think the website probably flatters the hotel a bit.

I bought lots of lovely shell & silver pendants for friends and also some kites (eagles, eagle-owls, butterflies and dragons).
Adults were really impressed with them (my sister said they were too nice to take outside and her hubby said he might hang them from the ceiling). The kids said 'Whatever'. :roll:

Polly
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You definitely did the right thing with organising the whole trip through someone. £120 (ish) is not a lot for a (very) full day with flights included and Prambanan and Borobudur, one of the most stunning places in the world.

There are some niceish hotels now nearby - so on my next trip i'm going to stay for a few days to get there for sunrise (and before the crowds). And to climb Mount Bromo!
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Travelling Sam
We thought the Jogja trip was excellent value for money.
Our guide in Jogja (who was really great) was very keen to extol the virtues of his city and encourage us to stay overnight the next time we visited.
From what we saw, the prices are even cheaper than in Bali.

I'm with you on Borobudur - it's a magical place.

Did you visit Prambanan before the 2006 earthquake?
As I mentioned before, it certainly did a lot of damage.

cheers
Polly
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I havn't been since the earthquake but i've seen the pics, and it's horrendous the damage that has been done. I've been 3 times to Borobudur and twice to Prambanan. I hope they find the money to restore it properly as opposed to a standard Indonesian botch job.

Jogya's one of my favourite places - cultural capital of Indonesia - also a lot of universities there so it feels very 'educated'. Did a 2 day batik course there with a famous local artist called Tulus Warsito - twas great! Definitely a place worth a few days. Also had a magical train journey to Jakarta - spent an hour watching a twister run parallel to us (a long, long way away) through the flat rice paddies of central java!
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PP
well I'm pretty certain I won't try rafting :lol:
You have me interested in Java though :D
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Fiona
The Ocean Rafting trip was not like the white water rafting.

Basically, it's over to Nusa Lembongan but the boat is very fast.
It's got a metal hull but has an inflatable surround, looks a bit like an inshore lifeboat.

There's 2 stops for snorkelling before you arrive at Lembongan.
There's lots of choices of boats across - catamaran etc.
Ocean Rafting (or Ocean Flyer is the same trip by another company) is just one of the options.

Polly
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ah - thats not so bad! We passed the white water rafting and you can keep it. I could just imagine what would happen to me. :lol:
OH is also interested in the Java trip. We haven't considered this before. Mind you, we always twin Bali up with another destination so have not had a long time there.
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Sounds fabulous Polly. Yours is the second trip report on Bali I've read recently and it's now definately on the "to do" list!!
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Puddleduck
We love Bali, as I said it was our 4th time there.
We've been to Malaysia, Thailand, Sri Lanka and Goa in the East and although we've had really good holidays at all those places, Bali (to us) is somehow different.
I wouldn't say Sanur beach is the best in the world (that has to be Phi Phi Island 20 years ago) or that the sea is the loveliest colour (again Phi Phi Island), but there's just something about Bali that makes us feel we're in Paradise.

The people are lovely,so gentle and polite.
I know that there is some hassle by taxi drivers etc but compared to Goa, we found it minimal.

The only downside is the length of the flight.
From the time we left the hotel in Bali to the time we walked into our house, it was a 26 hour journey (we live 2.5 hours from Heathrow).
That's not taking the 7 hour time distance into account - it was a full 26 hours elapsed time.

However, we'd definitely do it again.

Polly
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we split up the flight time by doing stopovers.
We have just booked for next year :D and are doing 1 night in Singapore on way there and 2 on way back
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That's a good idea, Fiona, but it means less days in Bali! :tdown :roll:
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we have booked one night in Singapore, 8 in Sanur, 3 in Ubud and 2 in Singapore. I honestly feel that twin or multistops do make the holiday seem longer.
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I meant to say on my previous post that, although to go straight on to Bali IS a long journey, I do personally feel that that's the better option (at least for us).
If you do a one night stopover after a 12 hour flight, you're still jetlagged and you lose time collecting your luggage, transferring to KL, Bangkok, HK, Singapore or wherever, then doing the reverse and checking bck in at the airport for the flight to Bali.

Our boarding passes for the flight to Bali were issued at Heathrow and our luggage routed straight through, so we just had a 2 hour wait in KL and then the 3 hour flight into Denpasar.

I think we'd want to spend at least 3 days on a stopover to make it worth while.

The first time we went to Bali, we had 4 days in Hong Kong, 7 days in Bali and 3 days in Singapore.
That worked really well (and did make our holiday seem long), but we wanted more time in Bali this time to do our tours.

Polly
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Hi PP

We came back from Bali/Singapore on 30th Sept after 12 nights bali and 3 night singapore. We always fly straight to our ''beach'' holiday and have a stop over on the way back for us this is ideal, the long flight doesnt bother us too much as we are excited about the destination etc and yes like youselves its over 24hr.........without time difference before we get to hotel or home, the flying hours are long but the messing about getting to airport/checking in/security etc add several hrs to your trip.

At least with the long haul most airlines have good entertainment which helps pass the time...........this time hubby was actually 'saving'' movies for the return flight.

Jules
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Hi Polly,

Glad that you enjoyed your trip. We prefer to go via Singapore with SIA - stopover for 3 days in Singapore on the way out and then straight back.

With the SIA morning flight from Bali, on the return trip there is only about 50 mins in S'pore. We live about 1.5 hrs from Heathrow and our journey (from hotel in Bali) took about 21 hours door to door (elapsed time) which we find just about acceptable. (not good, just acceptable).

Bali is worth it though!

:D

Peter
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Hi Pete
Bali is worth it though!


ABSOLUTELY!!!

Can we look forward to a trip report from you soon?

Oh! That's just reminded me - I've not done my hotel review yet. :oops:

I know this is :offtop but we've been having fun & games with the Indian visa situation (sorted now).

Are we likely to 'just miss each other' again at another airport soon? :lol:

Regards
Polly
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