Right at the end there is the Seker Bayram - sugar festival. It's a public holiday for a couple of days and everyone celebrates with sweets and chocolates. During the month of Ramazan a signal is set off at dusk and everyone sits down to eat also there are drummers who go round very early in the morning.
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JMK
2008-06-24 17:05:52
elain i hate to differ but i can assure you it is considered bad manners to eat in front of people who are fasting,i have been politely pulled up for chewing gum while talking to a woman market trader during Ramadan ,and i have eaten in places where they have tried to screen tourists while eating.
Bluepeterno1
Bluepeterno1
I agree with you bluepeterno1. Many Turks do fast during Ramazan even the ones who are not true believers. For them it is a serious thing to remind them of people less fortunate than themselves. Ramazan falls 2 weeks earlier every year so this year it is going to be during a time when it gets quite hot. They can't even drink water during the day. It is really bad mannered to walk around the streets eating and drinking. Turks are generally far too polite to say anything though. Of course it is fine in restaurants. The atmosphere in the evenings is really nice during Ramazan as everyone enjoys a big meal.
Apart from a waiter telling me that it was Ramadan last year in Icemeler, I wouldn't have known.
There was nothing to indicate that anything was different from a tourist point of view.
Except perhaps the larger amount of Turks in restaurants after dark.
Just a thought though......... is chewing gum, eating?
There was nothing to indicate that anything was different from a tourist point of view.
Except perhaps the larger amount of Turks in restaurants after dark.
Just a thought though......... is chewing gum, eating?
Yes, many Turks do fast, and many many do not.
I still maintain it is not expected of tourists to respect the month of Ramadan by not eating in public in daylight, especially not in resorts. If you, as regular tourists, gain some knowledge of the ideals behind Ramadan, and wish to show respect with the knowledge you have, thats absolutely great.
But the OP's question was does holidaying in Icmeler at Ramadan make any difference to a tourist? My opinion and experiences of a resort at Ramadan is it doesn't, it will be business as usual.
Elaine
I still maintain it is not expected of tourists to respect the month of Ramadan by not eating in public in daylight, especially not in resorts. If you, as regular tourists, gain some knowledge of the ideals behind Ramadan, and wish to show respect with the knowledge you have, thats absolutely great.
But the OP's question was does holidaying in Icmeler at Ramadan make any difference to a tourist? My opinion and experiences of a resort at Ramadan is it doesn't, it will be business as usual.
Elaine
I would not have thought so ,so i made it a point to find out ,have a wee look at the link i have posted and you will see what i mean.
http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/Religion/ramazan.html
Bluepeterno1
http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/Religion/ramazan.html
Bluepeterno1
You are perfectly correct in saying it does not mean any difference to the tourists elaine ,what i was saying was as a mark of respect and politeness in not openly eating in front of people who cannot .The first time i went to belek was during the month of ramadan,i went to a town called kadriye where there is a bar called the roman bar ,usuall.y there is tables on the front under cover ,you have to walk through these tables as part of the walkway , they took the tables away during the day so you had to eat inside . Another bar which i will not name closes during daytime ,but in actual fact is crowded with turks who dont want to be seen eating and drinking by other turks who are fasting . Swings and roundabouts i suppose.
Bluepeterno1
Bluepeterno1
Hi candm
I go to Icmeler every year while Ramadam is on. This will make no difference to your holiday.
as Del949 says you wouldnt know is was on if someone didnt tell you.
The only problem I have is that it stops me going out with my Turkish friends for lunch
, which we always do when we go in May/June
Enjoy your holiday
Lynn
I go to Icmeler every year while Ramadam is on. This will make no difference to your holiday.
as Del949 says you wouldnt know is was on if someone didnt tell you.
The only problem I have is that it stops me going out with my Turkish friends for lunch
, which we always do when we go in May/JuneEnjoy your holiday
Lynn
you're right Peter.
I think the salient point is "passing the lips".
But , to return to the topic it relly doesn't affect tourists, unless maybe you go into a non tourist area I suppose.
Can't say that I have heard the drummers going around waking people up for morning prayers though,but have had some enjoyable evenings when the locals break their fast and let their hair down a bit.
Living where I do I suppose that i come into contact with people observing ramadan a bit more than some, my neighbour is Muslim and we always get invited to celebrate the end of ramadan with her and family.
I think the salient point is "passing the lips".
But , to return to the topic it relly doesn't affect tourists, unless maybe you go into a non tourist area I suppose.
Can't say that I have heard the drummers going around waking people up for morning prayers though,but have had some enjoyable evenings when the locals break their fast and let their hair down a bit.
Living where I do I suppose that i come into contact with people observing ramadan a bit more than some, my neighbour is Muslim and we always get invited to celebrate the end of ramadan with her and family.
hi we like lynn go to icmeler every year at ramadan and have turkish friends who are strict muslims and every year they invite us to their home for something to eat during the day at first we were not sure about this but they explained that they have to cook for their children but you would not know if you were walking in the street that it was ramadan
suzanne
suzanne
I think ,if you are in istanbul ,you feel the different .
you can watch on ytube ''ramadan in istanbul '' or ''ramazan istanbul'' in turkish.
also I feel good in ramadan , many people feel good...
you can watch on ytube ''ramadan in istanbul '' or ''ramazan istanbul'' in turkish.
also I feel good in ramadan , many people feel good...
I have been to Turkey and Egypt when Ramadan has been in progress and have never noticed a difference when it comes to tourist resorts. What Peter said about eating infront of people doesn't make any sence to me as, what do you do if you go into a Restaurant or cafe you eat infront of people that may well be fasting
We are friends with the director of Food beverages and entertainment at the hotel we go to in Egypt and he would insist on us having something to eat and drink even though he was fasting. They do not expect people to fast in the resort as we would not expect them to follow our beliefs. this is what makes people different and why we can enjoy going abroad and seeing how other people live.
Ola
We are friends with the director of Food beverages and entertainment at the hotel we go to in Egypt and he would insist on us having something to eat and drink even though he was fasting. They do not expect people to fast in the resort as we would not expect them to follow our beliefs. this is what makes people different and why we can enjoy going abroad and seeing how other people live.
Ola
Ola if you read the link i posted and read my posts you will see what i mean ,i did not say you are not to eat in restaurants ,but what i did say was that it was deemed impolite to walk along the street eating and drinking,the link i posted states this as well and i also said i was politely told off about eating chewing gum while talking to an old lady trader at a market ,i can only relate things that happen to me when in turkey that doesent mean that people have to think that they are going to happen to them .
Bluepeterno1
Bluepeterno1
My sister lived in Turkey for 2 years. She worked at the consulate in Istanbul (and was the nurse there when it was bombed). She lived and socialised with Turkish people living in Istanbul. She was never ever made to feel the slightest bit disrespectful for eating during daylight hours during Ramadam, whilst in the company of local Turkish people. They were actually embarrassed when she said she felt she shouldn't. So please have no fears about this.
can anybody tell me when ramadan is this year? for some reason i always thought it was in october!
2/09/08 - 1/10/08. It moves back 2 weeks every year so next year it will begin mid August. I don't think we said that Turks minded us eating in front of them. I spent Ramazan with a Turkish family a couple of years ago and I was fed with grandma and the kids who don't fast during the day. The evening meal was wonderful, I just feel it's polite not to walk about in the street eating or smoking and Turkish friends said they appreciated that gesture. In restaurants and homes of course it's OK.
that will be why i thought it was every october then, as ive been to marmaris for the last 2 years during that month, (at different times) and it was their ramamadan...it must be unbearable for them during the hotter months, not being able to have a drink and all that!
Hi all,
I've (finally) booked to go to Turkey in September - woohoo!
Now Ive just realised Ramadan starts on 1st September and I'm worried we've picked a wrong time to visit.
We're staying in Calis in a private apartment so most of the time will be just staying by the pool relaxing (oh bliss!) and then we will be doing day trips to places such as Olu Deniz, Fethiye etc as we don't mind travelling around to see a bit of everything.
Does anyone know how Ramadan affects places such as Calis, Fethiye, Olu Deniz?
Are we restricted to eat and drink indoors during sunlight hours etc?
I hope it doesn't restrict us too much!
I've (finally) booked to go to Turkey in September - woohoo!
Now Ive just realised Ramadan starts on 1st September and I'm worried we've picked a wrong time to visit.
We're staying in Calis in a private apartment so most of the time will be just staying by the pool relaxing (oh bliss!) and then we will be doing day trips to places such as Olu Deniz, Fethiye etc as we don't mind travelling around to see a bit of everything.
Does anyone know how Ramadan affects places such as Calis, Fethiye, Olu Deniz?
Are we restricted to eat and drink indoors during sunlight hours etc?
I hope it doesn't restrict us too much!
Hi,
Just read back on the thread your post has now been merged into. In the tourist areas of each of the places you have mentioned you will be able to eat in daylight, and out of doors. The restaurants will be open and will serve you happily, just like at all other times of the season.
Elaine
Just read back on the thread your post has now been merged into. In the tourist areas of each of the places you have mentioned you will be able to eat in daylight, and out of doors. The restaurants will be open and will serve you happily, just like at all other times of the season.
Elaine
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