The following message is being repeated for the benefit of anyone just joining this thread who may have missed the original announcement on earlier pages:

First Choice has taken the decision not to put customers into the Kos Aqua Beach Club this summer, and will now be taking legal action against the developer. For full details of the statement, please click here:

http://www.firstchoice.co.uk/info/latestnews2.html

For important advice from Travel Law Solicitor, Ros Fernihough, please click here:

http://holidayforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=73371

Due to legal and libel reasons the time has come for Holiday Truth to ask anyone wishing to discuss legal action regarding Kos Aqua Beach Club and First Choice to please do so away from our forums.

Whilst we understand how angry and upset you all must be we must ask you to please not use the site to rally group actions and so on.

We wish you all the best with any claims you may make.

Holiday Truth

ctaylor,

Thanks for you kind comments regarding my comntributions to the debate. Like you I would also like to thank the HT team for the fantastic way they have handled a potentially explosive debate and somehow managed to keep everything legal & decent.

Other message boards have walked away from this subject because they found it too hot to handle so thank you holiday truths for sticking with us and giving us that all important platform.

Personally I have found this particular issue somewhat difficult to deal with because I am the kind of person who would never find themselves in an all inclusive resort. In fact I am heavily involved with a website which aims to put the case against the over proliferation of AI in Greece as I have seen first hand that it can & does damage the existing tourist infrastructure if left uncontrolled. I won't use this as an opportunity to promote that web address, but it has been mentioned in this thread many times.

But at the same time I do appreciate that there is a market for AI and I recognise that it is popular with many, in particular young families.

Alongside all of that I do like to see people, all people treated fairly, whether that be hardworking stressed out holidaymakers, or hardworking accommodation owners, restauranteurs etc.

I have had alot of experience in the tactics employed when the first ABC (Corfu) was being promoted and I saw how unfairly the holiday makers were being treated as they were being told that the place was completed and yet I had personally stood on the barren plot of land in Corfu were not a single brick has been laid to this day (and if the current info I have is correct nothing will ever be built on the plot in Corfu ).

With this in mind I decided that I had to join the wider deabte and have been active in numerous forums relating to all the ABC's.

I also recognise and respect HT's position in as much as they must protect this forum from any risk of legal action, so please do ensure that the debate continues but do keep anything potentially libellous off the boards, and of course it is very important to keep any discussion of future legal action private as FC certainly look at these boards and I know that they have been to my website numerous times.

But as Wizard kindly points out private messaging is available as are web messengers and private email, all and any of these can be used to pass more confidential information.

As for me, even though I am not likely to enjoy the delights of AI any time soon, I am very much around and willing to continue to chip in where relevant.

Hi everyone

I have booked to go to hotel Petra Mare in crete now - and as I now go on 14th July instead of 15th I now spend my sons 1st birthday on holiday - I have asked FC to arrange a birthday cake as they advertise this - and guess what I haven't given THEM enough notice so they are not interested!!! They make me sick - my holiday better be GREAT!!!
See ya x x

Hello everybody

we were booked to go to the aqua beach club on the 19th july.Just wondering what will happen if i dont book another holiday with them or take compensation and just wait for them to do something.
I have not heard from them apart from one phone call from my first choice travel agent on july the 2nd.

has anybody any ideas

As far as I am aware you would be due a refund, which I assume they may well be automatically issued after the 19th has passed - but his is pure guesswork on my part.

Has the agent or FC informed you that KABC will not open this year?

Well KH admin, would love to here why my post was deleted, would you like to explain to the folks here, or is it FC related....sorry relations,

Get a grip and be honest, I have only expressed my view which to be honest is shared by most of the honest people on here, so please post it again with maybe a small adjust .

Regards

Jeff Cook

If you have any comments to make regarding posts being removed then please direct them by pm to Admin.

However, seeing that you have chosen to post on the forum I can inform you that it was the email that was objected to as it blatantly disregarded the terms and conditions of posting.

Kath HT Admin

Fine then, put the posting back then minus the e-mail addy,
or is there an hidden agenda!!!

Regards

Jeff Cook

Fine then, put the posting back then minus the e-mail addy,
or is there an hidden agenda!!!

How dare you suggest that there is a hidden agenda here, our concern is for holiday makers. We have to abide by certain terms and conditions and beware of libel and slanderous actions.

Sarah

Having sent my reply via PM I am sure the sand will blow and cover what I was trying to say and help, but ther we have it, good luck all!!!

Just to clear things up.

Jeff has accused us of taking comission from First Choice. We are mortally offended by this. We give many many hours of free time to this site to help you all and we know that 99% of you appreciate what we do but we certainly do not deserve what Jeff has dished out tonight.

Jeff has been banned from Holiday Truths.

Sarah HT Admin

Gosh, I go off for a couple of hours R&R - return with a G&T, to catch up; AND....., find out that one of us has OVER stepped the mark. Please, can I assure you that 99.9% of us do appreciate this forum - if it had'nt have been for you, WHERE WOULD WE HAVE BEEN!!!!

jeff,

we come on HT to get valuble holiday info, your comments are unhelpful.

any advice you can give regarding the KABC would be most welcome, but please dont post offensive posts, they are not needed.

It would be interesting to hear how those who actually travelled to Kos last week got on. I am pretty sure that at least some people turned up at the airport unaware that KABC had been cancelled, what happened, did you fly? were you sent home? or were you sent somewhere else?

The info I hhave from kos suggests the latter, and it would be intersting to hear how you were treated, when you were told that KABC wouldn't open and where you eneded up and what did you think of it.

Perhaps some of these people have arrived back and are trawling the internet, if so do tell all.

Hi All

Today is a new day and a new decision

After speaking to a friendly FC advisor today We are going to wait and see what happens with KABC next year. We are staying booked for our holiday in July 2007. Call us mad but what have we got to lose by waiting a bit longer?

I have agreed with them to check back proceedings in October. I realise that all you who have been messed around this year, not a lot can be done about it now. But I thought maybe us booked for 2007 are starting to hit the panic buttons a little bit early.

At least We know we still have the option of re-booking another holiday at any point. FC also said that they assure me they won't be letting things go as far as they have this year. That We will be notified at the earliest convenience should they decide not to go ahead.

So big fingers crossed now to FC pulling this one of.

I think that this is the wisest decision for you at this stage, next year is a while away yet and much can happen.

Your best advice would be to have some alternatives on hand "just in case" and of course feedback from other people here on HT from this year will be valuable in making that short list.

KABC is an unknown quantity at this stage and I don't know if anyone really knows it's future or if FC will even be involved with it next year, bearing in mind the added comlications of FC taking the developer to court etc.

So get the new brochures when they come out, read a few reviews from here and draw up a reserve list, fingers crossed that you will not need to use it.

Thankyou Net Detective.

It is good having someone like you who offers such valuable advise

It's is our only sensible option really. We risk losing to much to pull out now in a blind panic.

Keep an eye on it's development will you for us ND?

I haven't posted anything for quite some time here.
Everybody from the dutch forum had the same problems as you here:
where to go/compensation/not enough time to search for an alternative etc. In the end I guess half of the people settled for an alternative in Turkey. Other half settled for the compensation and either booked themselves something else or stay at home!! Because many of us have agreed with work etc. to spend the holiday in a specific period. Bad luck if you couldn't find something else!

I myself am going to Hotel Sherwood Breezes Resort, Lara, near Antalya. From GoBest. Anyone of you going there??

We're going now 18th July - 29th July.
Personally I think it's a better hotel/deal than KABC would have been.....
Great reviews etc.

O yes! Woudn't it be nice here for you to make a new list of where and when people are going on alternative holidays?

we have finally agreed our replacement today, whilst not 100% happy, I can say that last choice have helped us somewhat, the only property that we could find which was a family run hotel with all the amenieties that we require was the holiday villiage sun tropical in lanzarote, but when we requested this hotel, there was a problem, as this hotel is 1/3 rd self catering and 2/3 rds all inclusive, all of the the all ins were gone, but with a little intervention for our sake`s(this was the helpful part), they contacted the hotel and managed to get us in as all inc, we are a party of 4 ad and 4 kids so were finding it hard to get the deal we wanted, with that said the price quoted was ott, but in the end settled to go with nearly £800 pounds back between us, we also got pre-booked seating thrown in and special kids meals on the flight, so technically we are not now out of pocket but still annoyed, few more qualms to sort out on our return, but still a little more happy that we have now got a holiday, still not 100% happy with last choice though and will never ever pre book with them again as this is the second year running that they have let us down,(we also had trouble last year, and nearly identical, with the pegassos palace), we now travel on the 17/08/06 from manchester.

Good morning all,

Following on from the earlier posting re further action against First Choice, those interested who feel they would like to take this matter further in a group, may pm me with their personal email address. I will then act as "postman" and exchange addresses between those who are interested and establish the preferred way of collective discussion and the most appropriate way forward.

Have a good day.
Carole.