Hi Sue ... it is actually 'dear green place', although some may argue about what the 'dear' refers to. But if you were flying over the city, perhaps in one of the helicopter sightseeing trips, you would be surprised at just how much greenery the city has. There are over 70 parks in Glasgow, of various sizes, shapes and descriptions.

David

Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!
I have booked it, third time lucky
Both times they quoted me £70 per person, not bad I must admit, but the same fare as the plane.
Yet on the computer it stated £17.50 per person, each way.

I decided to try for the last time, and yes I got the fare for £35 return.
Amazing. I was told either £70 or £196

I am going the end of July, booked the hotel tonight too

I really cannot wait to visit again.
I have decided to give the East End pubs a miss but might get the train a have a look there

Karen

70 Parks in Glasgow, it's amazing how big it really is.
I have only been to the Kelvingrove park.
I'll have to try another one this visit

OOps how could I! Only excuse is that I had a fall today at the hairdressers and gave my head a crack as well as having a grazed elbow bruised hip and knee but thankfully no broken bones! They were filling out all sorts of accident forms and then they called me to make sure I was OK.
Now live in Harrogate but born in Ireland lived in Glasgow from a child until 1976 and then in Fife until I moved here in 1998.

Of course it is "dear green place" and yes I have fond memories of all the 1p that is old 1p rides on the tram car during summer holidays to all the various parks around the city. Beautiful parks and Alexander Park was just a stones throw from where I lived so all during the summer spent a lot of time there.

Glad that you got your rail tickets booked and hotel etc. Me I am debating whether to book a round trip on the QM2 that has come on offer at a fantastic price.
I am going to sleep on it and decide tomorrow. Have a good weekend everyone!

Sue

KAZZZZA
Hi!
The East end pubs...
Some great ones in the West end though.
Take a wander down Byres road,and go into Ashton lane,Cresswell lane etc. since you'll be staying in Kelvingrove.Great places to eat there too and some lovely shops, full of character. Also Botanic Gardens at the top of Byres road is definitely worth a visit.

Have a great trip when the time comes.

Ooh Sue I hope you head is okay now
I would like to visit a typical Glasgow pub, not one this these Trendy bars.
I did visit The Goat, Weatherspoons, a trendy wine bar and another pub (forgot name) but I woulds like to visit typical glasgow pub.

We ate in a Scottish restuarant last time too.

How far to the Gorbals from Kelvingrove, I would like to see it as great grandad lived there when he moved from Old Kilpatrick.

Karen ... check the web for info on the Horseshoe Bar, Drury Street and Sloans Bar, Argyll Arcade (both in the city centre) and see if that's the sort of places you are interested in. If you are looking for traditional Scottish music, it may be worth checking out the Park Bar at 1202 Argyle Street, just round the corner from your hotel. It attracts a lot of Gaelic speakers, and there is music a few nights per week.

Depending on time of day and traffic, Kelvingrove to Gorbals coud take you around 30 minutes by bus. Unfortunately the tube is not ideal for that route, you would also need a bus connection or a bit of a walk.

Depending on when your grandad lived there, you may be in for a disappointment as much of the old Gorbals is gone. In fact some of what replaced it has also gone now.

David

Hi Karen
Byres rd. does have a good mixture of both traditional Glasgow pubs and Trendy bars. Tennents Bar,Aragon,Rubaiyat etc. But...there's also the Lismore and The Three Judges around the corner in Dumbarton rd. which might be of some interest?? There are an array of traditional Glasgow pubs in the same area (Partick). My late Dad had a drink or three in many of them, along with the rest of the bunnet wearing working men.
Would agree with David in that Sloans and the Horeshoe Bar are very popular City Centre Glasgow pubs. Must admit,haven't been in for a couple pf years though.

Hi David and Fiona,

Thank you for all you advice on pubs etc...
Yes I would love to hear some Scottish music, sounds great.

I do not know the address my great grandad lived in in the Gorbals, think it was during WW1, Scott St? Will have to double check my file.

I only know in 1891 the family lived in Munn's Land, Old Kilpatrick, Dumbarton.

And in 1901 he lived in New Street, Duntocher.

He was living at Crown Avenue in Clydebank just before WW1, I think it is still there.

And his sister lived at Pine Street Dalmuir (I don't know if it is there or not ) In the 1940's.

I will have to double check where Scott Street was.

It is a shame so much of the old buildings were bombed in the Blitz, but at least the Mitchell library has lots of old photo's to look at

Can anyone recomend a good Italian Restaurant please.

Thank you.

Karen

Hi Karen
Interesting to hear about your families background.
Up until recently, my mums house was still showing some damage from the Blitz. She lives a couple of miles outside of Clydebank...NW side of Glasgow.( There was a long crack running from the roof to the top of the main door..it was built in the early 20's) She finally got round to getting the building re done,so after all those years, it's now gone!

Italian restaurants.
A favourite with my family members is La Riviera,also on Dumbarton rd.
There's Di Maggios in Ruthven Lane,just off Byres rd. (which IMO has now become a bit chainy,if you know what I mean,but this one is their original restaurant and it's still very rustic in appearance.) had many a good meal there in the past. Another of my favourites is Paperinos on Byres rd... had another good meal there end of April. Their "original" restaurant is situated on Sauchiehall street.
La Parmigiana on Great Western rd. (near kelvinbridge in the West end)also has a really good reputation,although I've never eaten there.
In the City Centre,I would recommend Fratelli Sarti.
Most of them have their own websites.
Hope this might be of some help.

Karen ... there used to be at least 3 different Scott Streets in Glasgow. One remains, just off Sauchiehall Street near Charing Cross. One in the Bridgeton area was renamed and is now known as Madras Street, and one in the Port Dundas area was renamed and now known as Tyndrum Street.

David

Thank you Fiona
There was a lot of damaged done in the Blitz.
Sounds like lots of Italian places to eat.
I will have to do a Google search.

David,
I have just gone through my certificates and census.
I believe my Scott Street was in Dalmuir.

Another address I want to see is Pine Road, Dalmuir, family were living there according to the Valuation Rolls in 1943/44 1946/7.

I have address going back to 1841, but I doubt they will be there

Thanks everyone for all you help.
I can't wait for my trip, wish it was longer.

Karen

Karen ... I was only referring to the Scott Streets in central Glasgow, but there are loads of others, including the one in Dalmuir which is still there. There is still a Pine Road in Dalmuir too.

David

That's great thank you David,
Yes I realised that, I had to check my file to see which Scott strret they were living.

My mother in law was born in Campsie (Lennox castle) but her family were living in Scott Street, Govan, before moving to England.

I think I need to buy a local street guide, as I would like to walk in their footsteps and visit Pine Street and Scott Street.I bet it's all new builds now

If I visit Clydebank, I can go to Dalmuir as they are very near ?
Is that right
If not which train station for Dalmuir?

Thank you

Karen

Karen .. I personally don't know the Dalmuir area, or just how close Pine Street and Scott Street are to each other. You may be able to pick up some more info on the forums at http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk from someone who lives in Dalmuir, or perhaps has photos of the area.

Dalmuir and Clydebank are certainly close enough to each other, each has a station with services to and from Glasgow's Charing Cross Station.

David

If you're looking for some special offers on food have a look at http://www.5pm.co.uk . A friend told us about it last night and we booked lunch today through it, adding a free glass of wine to the lunch.

It is so long now since I lived in Glasgow not since 1976 Moved to Fife and lived there until 1998 when I came to Harrogate, My Husband died of a brain tumour in 1996 he was just 56 and a very fit man.

Life is so precious and you are doing absolutely the right thing and also interesting in following in your family footsteps. Mine are all in Ireland and I am going over in June again.

Glasgow has changed so much over the years and each time we would go through Brian was always frustrated by the number of street that had disappeared or that had no way through.
I used to go often for the day when Julie was at University there and it is a really good place to shop better than Edinburgh in my opinion.
With the exception of JENNERS but it is no longer family owned but by Fraser so I feel this will change things.

I have today booked my QM2 Transatlantic 12 night BTB cruise and this is for the 12th July great bargain! Ireland first then New York and in October my Med Cruise.

Must get to bed as it it 12.35am

Keep doing the research and you are getting a lot of very good advice fron those who know Glasgow well as it is today.

Oh the head is OK but the bruising on my hip knee elbow and the muscles in my abdomen and neck hurt but I am tough and it will go. No need for sympathy. I'm just grand.

Sue

Karen type scott street dalmuir into microsoft maps and you will see it
and across the rail tracks is pine road not far away worth a look on the microsoft site and it will give you an idea,google earth is not very clear in that area.

Garry

Hi Karen

Scott St is still mainly tenement style housing so will be much the same as when your family were there. Dalmuir station is only 2 minutes from Scott St, the station sits behind the tenements and Scott St is the last on the right when viewed from the station.

Pine St is about 5 minutes further on past Mountblow Rd, these are relatively new houses built after the war in the late 50s early 60s ?.

Try this excellent Italian restaurant in George Square -

http://www.lavitapizzeria.co.uk/Glasgow/index2.asp

Graham