Which one was it?

Valleylady

I am so sorry your holiday was spoilt by what you found out, I did try to warn you and put you off staying out near the homes because I thought the child you was sponsoring would not even be there but I am pleased you have seen for yourself what a con they are

The name can't be mentioned or any real reference be made about them on the forum for legal implications, so I would suggest you contact Valleylady direct to see if she wants to add to what she has posted

Valleylady's older post....

Forum: Goa Discussion Forum
Topic: Giving to beggars or not?
valleylady
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:17 pm
we sponsor a child with el shaddai take a look at childrescue.net i,m about to post a slideshow to

hi meagin,nice to meet you at the meet,yes ,we wish we had tacken your advice but sometimes you have to find out for youself,now we have.thanks anyway,hope my post isnt deleted becauce someone put up my old post.

rob have pm,d you,

we visited with valleylady, we were shocked ,if you are going to sponser a child any were,,,
you should go and visit,,, might make you think before you sponser.

can i ask what upset you so much, i dont understand sorry if im being dim
sharon

Hubby and I and our family sponsor some children at the Candolim boys home we have been there a few times and we are more that happy with everything about the home and the way it is run ..every time we go we can see what a great change they have made from our last visit it does my heart good every time we go I could never thank the lady who runs the home enough (dont want to name names incase im not allowed ) credit where credit is due to all the people at the Candolim boys home .for all the good hard work you do ...colleen

Well said Irishcolleen!
Valleylady was lovely to meet you in December. Hope you had a great holiday.

Irishcolleen and Gemma

Valleylady was not referring to the Candolim boys home or any other children's charity in Goa, just the charity she supported, trusted and thought was a good one and now has second thoughts about but suggested that if your are sponsoring anywhere to make sure you are not doing more harm than good which it sounds like you have done.

Valleylady, Robert and Carol please write to the Chair of the Trustees in the UK about your complaint, concerns or worries as that is the only way to start getting things put right, you should be able to find the name and address on their paper work but if you can't PM me and I will try to find it out for you or just write to the charity commission direct

Please do it, as you can't just turn your back on it

hi irishcoleen,gemma ,glad i met you at the meets,as you know all 3 of us had a chat at the meet when i explained what had happened,i still have your numbers and hopefully will meet up with you next time,

meagin,,,yes i do have the email and phone number of the uk offices,i would like to say that it has taken from our return to now to pluck up enough courage to say anything ,but after talking it over between ourselves and friends who had sent lots of items over for the children,we decided that ,as you said we cant turn our backs on it ,
i would also say that we DO NOT beleive that any of these children are harmed or ill treated in any way. in fact they were all looking quite happy and cheerful,it is just our personal expierience and that of the 2 friends who visted with us that we are not happy with.

this was my first time in (india) goa,,, only went to met up with our friends, from the valley,, they had sponsered a child for 1 year,, beeen wrighting,sending photo,, when they met there sponsered child?? she didnt know them...i felt like crying with them,,x the valley ladyxx we also took all our luggae allowance over for the orphanage,, the local told us,, ha ha yu only here for a few weeks,, when you go home the clothes wil be sold,, & the children are not from goa,, the are from mumbai,+ if the girl the vally lady sponsered is an orphan,,, ??? why does she go home to her mother in mumbai,,, when the tourist have gone,,,,, seems like the sponsers..the tourist are paying,, for the children to be in a bording school,,

Sorry about your experience Valleylady. I know you made a lot of sacrifices in order to take the things out with you. I agree with IC about Candolim Boys Home, we visit every year as we did this year. We have to be careful too about where we take things as my sister gets clothes, footballs etc from Puma whom she works for and under no circumstances are they to be sold off but we know the boys get them at Candolim Boys Home as we are allowed to give them out ourselves and the boys remember us. I agree also you can see the improvements that are made when you visit each year and the boys are very happy there. Will try and put a photo on if I can manage to find out how to do it! Hope to meet up with you next year as I think we are going at the same time.

Many years ago we also went to this particular orphanage to do our bit and we weren't impressed by the actions of the staff that were there, I think they took most of the stuff we donated. We have heard many rumours over the years, not just from tourists but the local Goans too, some rumours were quite unsavoury - they can't all be wrong.

Valleylady, you tried, don't be put off by your experience as there are many other organisations in goa that will be only too pleased to accept your help.

It was nice to meet you in December and maybe I will catch up with you again some time.

Fizz

hi brenliz,sorry we missed you last time,we are going 5 wks next time but traveling for a couple of weeks before arriving in goa on 18/12 to 3/01,already booked our accom in goa lol.i know we spoke a lot about getting the items out there,as you yourselves were expierincing problems with exess baggage.anyhow our experience has n,t put us off goa as you can see from the above.

would just to say thanks to everyone who has commented on my post,and for the pm,s,i would just like to say that although we are dissapionted with what we discovered that in no way are we saying that these children are ill treated.abused or harmed in anyway,i wish to get that piont across,in fact they were quite happy and cheerful and looked well,it is just our personal experience and observance of things and that of the friends who came with us so sorry that lots of you had simular experiences as ourselves.

Hi Valleylady we are there for 3 weeks from the 10th Dec so will hopefully see you at the met ups. Hopefully we have 3 more people coming out with us next time - their first visit and 2 of them are men who obviously don't take as much luggage as us ladies - so we will have plenty of room to take even more out next time. Glad you enjoyed your holiday anyway despite the upsets.

Hi valeylady
Sorry to hear of your experience with this charity. It is not nice when you find out that your generosity is being misappropriated.

Have pmd you

Al

We have friend that donate to this charity but I have always had my suspicions about their credibility.
If anyone has more info on them please let me know. I don't want them to support a bogus charity.

Al

this was our first visit to GOA,, only went to meet up with,
valleylady, to meet the child. valleylady had sponsered for 1 year,, the valleylady,, had been wrighting & sending gift, + photo's of her self,
so there sponsered child, would know who they are when they got goa, to meet,, there sponsered girl... the poor girl didnt know who they was,,, ive have took photo's of the meeting,, i felt like crying for my friend, valleylady,xx
met the founder of the charity,, first thing she said was can u take me 20 kilos,, of scarves back to uk,,,
not thank you for sponsering the child, or bringing all our luggage allowance for the children,,
so we started asking questions,,,, who is opening the mail,, who is replying,,,
it goes to head office???? thats in UK.??
we visited the orphanage,, with valleylady, & took 75 kilos of clothes & bubbles, tooth brushes paste,exc,, for the children,,took photo's of the children enjoying the bubbles,& baloons,
then we noticed all the clothing we took,,, was in a corner,,
valleylady took persanall gifts to her sponserd child ,for her birthday & christmas,, she wasent allowed them,, as the other children will bully her,,
we was shown the bed room.. 4 walls, & roof,, we asked were the children sleep,, on a mat on the floor,, about 50 children in a room 30 ft - 10ft, no locker's. no nothing,, just 4 walls,, & a mat.
BUT,,,we never saw a child under 3,, or we never saw a dissabled child,,
we saw poorer children on the street',
& after speaking to the local goan prople,,who tell us the clothes the farangs bring ober got to market,,
children go home to mumbai,, in the winter,, when the tourist have gone home,,
met a lady tourist , who is in goa for 1 year,, she wanted to do work free for the charity,, was told she can only do work with the children is she sponsers a child,,
my hubby,, said,, not only does the founder want ya bread £,, she wants ya dripping as well,,
be aware.. go visit for your-self,