Hi
I'm very interested in your case as it's similar to mine (and approx. another 25 people). Unlike you, however, Thomson (Crystal) are offering us compensation of £50. The brief facts are as follows. We turned up on Sat 9th to board a 6.45am flight at Cardiff to Chambery, to go on a 7 day skiing holiday. We'd booked the whole holiday through Crystal (which included flights and accommodation, ski passes and ski lessons, amounting to £1700 for two). The plane made three attempts at landing at Chambery but couldn't due to bad weather. It then landed in Lyon. We spent around 7 hours sat on the plane at Lyon airport. Various plans were announced and then changed. We asked to disembark but they kept saying that Lyon airport authorities wouldn't let us. Eventually, they announced that we were going to fly back to Cardiff. WE arrived in the evening. They put us up in a very basic holiday (having informed us in a letter we received on disembarking that we were staying in a 5 * hotel!). We departed again in coach at 4am for the airport, boarded and then spent another 5 hours sat on Cardiff runway while they announced more plans before eventually saying that (around 11am) we'd fly to Milan later that day and then we'd be transported by coach across the Alps that evening/night to Chambery and then take subsequent coaches to our final destinations. The journey from Milan would be around 6 hours. The French roads were apparently on 'red alert' due to the weather. We decided to get off. We called our insurance but the claims office was closed on a Sunday and so we spoke to someone on the emergency line. They weren't sure that we were covered on our insurance but thought we were. We spoke to another person in the insurance and they gave the same response. So, we got off, pretty convinced we were covered. The holiday had been ruined. We'd spent 30 odd hours getting nowhere and had effectively lost 2 days of our holiday. We sent a long complaint letter to Crystal and requested a letter for our insurance stating the length of delay etc.
Now Crystal have just sent a letter to us stating that it wasn't their fault and offering us £50 as a goodwill gesture. They still haven't provided us (6 days later) with the letter for our insurance.
I thought they were at least obligated to return the cost of the flight. However, your case now suggests that there is a precedent for refunding the cost of the holiday. I can't believe - through no fault of our own - and taking reasonable steps all the way - that we now face having no holiday, losing a vast amount of money - and having spent this ruined week dealing this matter.
Please can you advise/help/share some information that will help us with this case?
I note someone has commented that they got an equivalent holiday provided due to delays. Thomson say this is not true and they would never do this. Any comments!!!!
Your flights departed and were not affected by the UK snow which shut some UK airports and caused delays and cancellations - it was your arrival that was disrupted due to adverse weather conditions in your destination.
So this is different to the OP. You may want to start a new thread about this. Holiday Insurance would normally cover this.
What is OP - I'm new to this!?
Hi jilly
Have split the above complaints and given them this new topic.
Sorry to hear your tail of woe, it sounds like you had it a lot, lot worse than us I can assure you Thomson's/TUI/First choice did just what I said, but it was not offered initially I sent an email off to the address on the form they handed me (it is in my thread) and a few days later got the call I complained that they had left me without a holiday it was only then they said that they would transfer the balance to the new date
Hope this helps!
If you can
We were on the same plane as Jilly (ours is the less succinctly expressed message posted before hers). Thanks for your feedback - Barbados holiday. Can I just confirm that you decided to get off the delayed plane - and it was not cancelled? I agree that the situation is slightly different in so far as we were delayed due to bad weather at the destination and the plane did take off on time. However, since we boarded a new plane 24 hours later from our original departure point then this plane clearly was delayed even if the first go wasn't.
Appreciate your feedback - the whole situation is proving to be rather frustrating. We still haven't even received a letter from Thomson/Crystal for us to attempt to claim on our insurance (who, in an initial chat on the phone to the claims office are also quibbling over the fact that we took off on time and therefore we weren't delayed).
Cheers!
No we never got to board the thing, we sat in departures 14 hours were called to the gate and then told the pilot had gone over his hours, and we then sat around for two more hours now totalling 16 hours and where then told at 1am the flight was not till 0915 and where handed the doc below
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz95/cletus0898/form.jpg
At that point we decided to abandon it, as the first day was spent in departures and the second would have been spent in bead recovering from having to sleep rough in departures we where only gong for a week !
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MarkJ
2010-01-16 22:45:11
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Interesting too. I'm glad that they've seen sense for you - hope your revised holiday plans go well. I'm calling Crystal/Thomsons tomorrow. I'm very doubtful over whether they're going to do anything for us. However, nothing ventured...
Will keep you posted!
do you have the name / contact number / email of the representative you contacted at Thomson? It sounds as though you got to talk to somebody in authority whose words were transformed into action. Unfortunately the people we've spoken to (all very personable and helpful) have their hands tied by red tape and company policy.
Many thanks, Jilly.
Hi,
I have tried to send you a personal message (P.M) but I don't have the facility, I don't really want to post the number on the open forum so if one of the mods could temporally enable my PM facility I will sent it to you ..
cletus, I have pmd you.
That's really kind of you. Jilly and I are in touch by email - however, if you can email me the details too, that would be very useful. You have been so helpful - thanks!
StuartJohn
This thread went eerily quiet! What happened to the other posters?
Frustratingly slow and no TUI haven't come up with the goods. My understanding is that they have sent each passenger £50 as a 'goodwill gesture'. We are applying to Thomson for a refund of the cost of the flight as I understand that we are legally entitled to this under the EU regulation. TUI claim that the refund for the Barbados holiday was from a different subsidiary company [Thomson Mainstream] and their policy is to replace the holiday; we are with Thomson Activity and their MD never replaces nor refunds. As far as I'm concerned they're all part of Thomson PLC and should operate the same policy but I'm not sure where I stand legally on this. So, no tangible news.
I suggest you ring the PA of Ros .... who is a travel solicitor .... number can be found on here....
Ask her ...
Mark
Thanks Mark
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Thanks! Will let you know how we get on.
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