In the TA I used to work, the gazeteer was on line. Also, for any holiday accommodation from our own Tour Operator, there was a very comprehensive guide to all the accommodation. Sad thing is though, not many staff used it!
There is one thing that really surprises me in this "complaints" section. Time and time again, members who go out of their way to help others with advice and recommendations, often recommened the free advice from Ros Fernihough, yet sadly we never really hear about people taking up this excellent offer, or the outcome.
I hope I am never in a situation where I have to take a TA or TO to the courts, but if I was, without a shadow of doubt, I would use the expertise of Ros. What have you to lose?
There is one thing that really surprises me in this "complaints" section. Time and time again, members who go out of their way to help others with advice and recommendations, often recommened the free advice from Ros Fernihough, yet sadly we never really hear about people taking up this excellent offer, or the outcome
There are a lot of people here on HT Who try to help with problems. Some who put a lot of time and effort into finding answers.
If only those who have a problem would take the time to update us then we could help many others.
It does not take long, and if you are guilty of not doing so you will feel better having done your little bit to make the forum even better.
This brings me back to my original post in one way. I posted asking for information on the holiday we want. Sanji - another who always tries to help - replied, and that helped me forward. My problem really started when I read the brochure and saw the exclusions/extras. If we ever get it sorted and go on the holiday. I hope, if anyone ever asks for help for the same one, I will be able to be of some assistance
fwh
If you were purchasing a car or taking out a loan you would got right through all the T&C's defore signing up so why not for booking a holiday?
I know most people on this forum do their research before booking, but alot of travellers either go into the travel agent, not knwoing where they want to go or what hotel, so only get a quick chance to look at the brichure, and are sometimes presurised into booking up there and then, and once booked it's normal trnasfer fees/cancellation fees, so when they go home amd take a closer look at the brochure or look it up online, they might decide the hotel is not really what they are looking for.
Another problem is booking over the phone. The customer doesn't usually have the brochure infront of them so are relying on the sales agaent to pick them out the most suitable hotel, who are under presure to get the sale on the initial call as it affects their conversion rate, and therfore bonus.
My advice to travellers (not necessarily on this board would be to get brochures look at the hotel location and amenities, read the T&C's closely, then read reviews on the web bofore booking it over the phone/shop or internet. And always cut out the page of the hotel and take it with them, so if there are any differenves the can raise it with the rep straight away, give them 24 hours to sort out the problem / move hotels- this would cause alot of hassle if they have to make a complaint whne they come back.
As a final point it is easy when passing a TA's and seeing a bargain in the window and going in and booking it. And dont phone a call centre until you've read up on the hotel you want to go to.
I know this is advice most people on the forum already know but it is worth repeating. Some customers stilll think they have a 14 day cooling off period when they book a holiday.
And dont be caught in the trap where the TA will tell you there is only 1 or 2 rooms / flights left- they dont have access to that information. If they key in details for 4 people it will bring up 2 rooms,as thats the max number of rooms for the party. In actual fact there could be 20 rooms avail at the hotel. If they call head office they willl tell exactly how many rooms and flights are left.TA's will bend the truth to get the sale there and then to meet their targets.
Apols for pointing out the obvious to experienced forum members. But alot of complaints do come back because the customer has not researching the holiday properly.
As a final note, since the Thomson Call Centre closed, sales calls are now directed to Thomson shops where the calls are no longer recorded, so if there is any dispute of what was agreed on the phone. It's your word against the TA, who will do everything to prevent a shop loss, so it might be worth keeping a note of who you spoke to and what was said in the call.
Thanks
AI is based on last years operations and may alter.
In other words we will tell you that it is one thing but if it's another don't complain because we are covered.
We got caught out last November as the AI was not as advertised on the web site or brochure. The disclaimer meant that it was a waste of time complaining.
I do not believe that any other type of sales contract would be allowed to get away with this but the travel companies do again and again.
Margaret
As you say, it said in the small print it tells you AI is based on last years operations and may alter.
So you know in advance before you book that this may happen.
You have the choice to book or not.
The Travel Companies don't force anyone to book.
On the other hand AI includes your drinks if they failed to provide this then that would be a major part of the AI and the holiday booked would not be classed as AI.
Where as if they failed to provide say pitzza at the pool bar they would be able to get away with that,as all AI vary slightly in what they provide.
please don't take any offence as none is meant.
See Product Information on pages 5 & 6 of the ABTA Code of Conduct - Standards on Brochures and Booking Conditions, and the mention of 'any additional facilities or special arrangements included in the price'.
We spend a lot of money on our holidays, and one only has to look through the threads on this Complaints Forum to see the extent to which some travel companies do try to get away with a lot.
Peter
When we were without children we would often take late bookings/accom allocated on arrival etc. Once you have to think of others ie children/one member in the group who is a little infirm & cannot manage steps/doesnt want a certain type of location the whole holiday booking process changes !!
We always allowed on AOA the price of taxis/hire car if we were in the middle of no where, luckily we were often lucky in our allocation but saw some people who were dropped off in awful locations/accomodations
I think half the fun in looking to where to holiday is the research, firstly knowing what you want & expect.
Secondly the price comes into play as you get what you pay for !!
We did several AI holidays when our daughter was younger as it suited us, but still you had to read what was included ie only local cheap drinks or brand names
Having travelled to far flung places (from the early 80's) to areas which are now almost bog standard destinations we always enjoyed the unknown & expected a sense of "lets try what the locals do & eat".
We do expect the same Health & Safety abroad as we do at home & unfortunately it doesnt happen as peope find out to their own cost.
If holidaying becomes too much the same as back home then we may just as well stay home !!
Lets all reflect on what a holiday really is..its an expensive item we purchase with too much ease & sometimes regret later, its supposed to be a rest/enjoyable.
Treat it like any other major purchase ie a house/car/furnishings & dont part with your money till you are satisfied its what you as a family really want
Just to add to this, ive finally given up going abroad at the age of 47 having seen all i want to see around the world.
Now enjoy my static holiday caravan & latest adventure being a part owner of a narrow boat. Although i still researched these purchases being parting with any money
All the best to wherever you are holidaying this coming season, let it be remembered for all the right reasons.
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Lloydies
2020-01-28 12:07:31
I agree with every word Lloydie.I have 3 years to run on my passport and have made the desision not to renew it.I like you have been to all far flung corners of the world and theres nowhere else I would like to go.I also have a static in a beautiful location and when I am there I wonder why I go abroad.I will still be vising Turkey and Sharm until my passport runs out.
I have to avoid the sun wether im abroad or in the UK & last years weather here made the choice even wiser for staying in the UK.
Also look at all those people who queued up at the airport for an Easter break in the wet on mainland Europe
Its weird how we start off holidaying in the UK as kids & go full circle back to enjoying this country.
I clicked on the link for your caravan and it looks almost the same as ours apart from the position of the doors,a Cosalt Devon delux.
Its a Cosalt Eclipse with living area central & bedrooms either ends & love the layout/build
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