Well, here goes.
I will be brief as we were only away for a week this trip.
We arrived at 6.20 A.M. at Dabolim and being in the Premium cabin we were off quite quickly. They have set up swine flu screening just inside the terminal building before immigration and I would imagine it getting quite chaotic if you were last off the plane.
The baggage carousels started and I noticed something very strange. No porters dragging them off. Even stranger no porters lurking just outside waiting. We got outside the terminal building to the cash point and almost to the taxi before even spotting a porter who was shouted at by someone before leaving us alone. I honestly wondered if we had landed somewhere else. I knew we had not after about 30 seconds in the taxi when as usual the driver tried to break the land speed record.
Amazingly one hour and 30 minutes after landing we found ourselves being shown to our room at the Santa Monica Calangute.
So just after nine after picking up a scooter we were walking down the sand to Calangute beach. A very strange site awaited lots of sun beds and no shacks. We were shown to a sun bed and assured they were not charging provided we were going to buy some food and drink. I have always thought this to be more than a fair exchange and we enjoyed a nice few days enjoying the hospitality of what I later found out to be Café Roma shack. No names up so until we were furtively shown a menu I had no idea of the name.
We were brought food and drinks from the kitchen area just off the main beach and as the week wore on tables and shade were brought down and eventually growing frustrated with the lack of progress over the licence fiasco the local shack owners started to build.
We were only in Goa in March 2009 but as the week wore on I did see lots of changes. First of all let me say how much I like Goa so I am not being negative but sometimes you just have to say what you see.
The streets really are much dirtier as if they could get worse. Hundreds of Taxis parked up with no one to drive them and not enough customers anyway. From Sinquerim to Baga there seems not a square yard without a restaurant. No wonder they look quiet there are just too many for not enough customers. Many more beggars than I remember and I do mean many more. Tuk Tuk drivers now want the same fare as the taxis(at least in my experience).
Most of all what strikes you is still the lack of infrastructure. All this tourist money for all these years and the place still resembles a battlefield.
The hotels are a prime example. Most built over 20 years ago and not as much as a lick of paint since. The Santa Monica a prime example. Lovely staff struggling with a product that is well past its sell by date. Rock hard mattresses that required pain killers for me to sleep and this is not that uncommon in North Goa.
Of course with what the tour operators are giving the hotels per room there is probably not much in the budget for improvements.
My OH and I had a discussion about a major U.K. chain opening a hotel in Goa with all that we have come to expect from our hotels at home. Not that special, say a Travelodge type place but with a pool. Only with our standards of hygiene comfort and professional standards. It would be full all the time but we knew it could never work in Goa.For a start the tour operators would never be able to sell it at a profit.
There I think lies another of Goas problems.We have all got so used to cheap holidays that Goa has become a cliché. Goa equals cheap package tourists. And surely if Goa is to improve it has to attract a more affluent visitor. So it is in a bit of a tough spot.Just my thoughts and feel free to shoot them down.
I know I will get some flak for my next observation but anyway here goes. Parts of Calangute now resemble the Costas. Karaoke, bingo, pie and chips, sweaty loud drunken brits abusing local people just because they can get away with it. It made me really sad to see some of the behaviour of my so called fellow countrymen.
I have commented before about the influx of Russians tourists and their behaviour but they appear to be saints compared to some of the things I saw.
Sweeping generalisations? Maybe but you call it as you see it. Met a chap I know out there who spends six months a year there. He rents an apartment and as he is retired he escapes the joys of England in the winter. His first words to me where "God it really is a s******e this year".
Harsh words but he does spend six months of the year there so is better qualified than me to give an opinion .
So you probably think we did not have a good week after reading the above. You would be wrong. Apart from both of us getting a dose of Goa gut which is a bit of a pain when you are only there for a week and the fact that the heat now affects our appetite so badly that we can never truly appreciate the wonderful food we loved it.
For all the stuff I have written above which is my honest observations you know when you are sat on your sun bed watching the world go by feeling that wonderful breeze on you and just taking in how fantastic it is to be there its worth all the downsides. For now it is and has been for years for us. I just wonder for how many people that is no longer enough.
Will we be back? Well we have a six month visa and 2 weeks off in March. What do you think?
Papa
Thanks for your report Papa.
Anyone know about the baggage handlers being moved away or was it a one off ? Would be a good improvement without them.
Alan
The swine flu screening happens just inside the terminal building.They have one of those heat cameras and a couple of people in masks.Every now and then someone gets pulled aside and has a thermometer placed on their forehead this happened to me.
As I said we were lucky there were not that many people in front of us as I can imagine chaos once the whole flight arives inside.As for the swine flu forms do not bother printing the ones off the website.The ones you are given on the plane are much simpler.Pretty pointless though as they are given the most cursory of glances and then stamped and handed back to you.Ours went in the bin in the Hotel.
As for the porters well it really was a breath of fresh air to be able to get your own bags and get to your taxi without being hassled.First time in all our years of going to Goa.Lots of them up at departures but by then they know you are not going to give them much.This is the best thing to happen to Dabolim for years.Not sure how long it will last.Once the correct palms have been greased I am sure things will get back to normal.
Papa
Cheers
My OH and I had a discussion about a major U.K. chain opening a hotel in Goa with all that we have come to expect from our hotels at home. Not that special, say a Travelodge type place but with a pool. Only with our standards of hygiene comfort and professional standards. It would be full all the time but we knew it could never work in Goa.For a start the tour operators would never be able to sell it at a profit.
There I think lies another of Goas problems.We have all got so used to cheap holidays that Goa has become a cliché. Goa equals cheap package tourists. And surely if Goa is to improve it has to attract a more affluent visitor.
Interesting points you have proposed there.
However, I think Goa does very well attracting more affluent visitors, just pop in and have a look at the Taj hotels or the Marriot or Leela Palace - they are always fully booked.
Also, have you noticed how many boutique type hotels have been springing up - and they're not cheap.
The same is true of the better quality restaurants - they don't need touts outside trying to persuade diners to come in and eat - they are fully booked nights in advance.
As for Goa being "a cliché that equals cheap package tourists" - we knew nothing about that the first year we booked.
Our first visit was a cheap package and we chose Goa because of the good winter weather, and it looked like an interesting place to stay.
However, ever since then we have booked our own flights and accommodation - but I can't say it has ever been cheap and we don't stay in places like the Taj or Marriot.
The problem with providing cheap long haul package holidays is - the profit margins are so small for the hotels that they can't possibly provide a quality product. The cheap packages also attract huge numbers numbers of visitors to what is basically a 3rd world country (what-ever India likes to think) that doesn't have the infrastructure to cope.
Good points made.Thanks for taking the time to read my report.Not sure I could justify the cost of the Taj etc.It sort of reinforces the point of the visitors goa attracts at that end of the market.I appear to ba among that type of visitor.Led by the cost and as you said the weather and food etc.
Not sure what the answer is for Goa.For us it may be to go south to avoid what is happening around the CCB belt.
I still love Goa but not the uncontrolled and slapdash development.
The thing is even the South will probably end up like Calangute.
Papa
Just read Papas posting and have to say we have been noticing the changes for several years now and agree wholeheartedly with sentiments expressed. Thing is, we too love the place and keep going back. There is a certain magnetism that stops us looking at alternatives or maybe we are just set in our ways! That said, we have niggling doubts and concerns after reading postings on other issues, particularly Sinquerim beach erosion, the usual shack fiasco and inattention to improving the resorts. We are still looking forward to our annual Xmas /New Year visit and meeting up with old friends and sincerely hope things are not as bad as they seem.
How many english are staying in The Taj or The Marriot?
Every day i hear people complaining about things in Goa and how it has changed.
It's still reasonably cheap and you are gauranteed gorgeous winter sunshine....that is the reason most are here,especially long termers.
I am here for the above reasons but as soon as i find somewhere i think will be suitable for me i shall be off because the place has gone downhill and there's no denying that.
Very good honest report. Must admit our first visit 10/11 years ago was because it was a cheap place to get to out of the horrible winter but now the cost of the holiday is secondary, not because I am rich! but I now go because I love the great variety of food not to mention the unbroken sunshine and relaxed way of life. We love to see all the people we have met over the years and of course nowhere else has the meet ups on a Wednesday night. I am afraid I am one of those people who look at things through rose tinted specs and I am not afraid to admit it because I love my time in Goa every year.
Me too.
Post all the bad things as I get home and then as the weeks wear on the rose tinted glasses come back on.
Not sure how long that will last though.
Papa
There's a whole stack of things "wrong" with Goa and if you are the complaining type, it's a question of where you start. But we definitely don't go on holiday to complain and we accept that we're on a different continent and suspend our normal critical faculties. We fully accept things in Goa that we wouldn't put up with in the UK. We know we won't change things so we just get on with it. So long as we can keep on doing this, we'll go back and enjoy the climate, food and people.
Karaoke, bingo, pie and chips, sweaty loud drunken brits abusing local people just because they can get away with it. It made me really sad to see some of the behaviour of my so called fellow countrymen.
Yes, there was more of this and it's not good. There were occasions when it felt like "Benidorm" - loud, tasteless and full of bad language. We also see many Brits who have formed real friendships with local people over the years and respect local people and traditions.
It's this crazy variety that helps to make Goa such a fascinating place to go back to - as we will in February!
Karaoke, bingo, pie and chips, sweaty loud drunken brits abusing local people just because they can get away with it.
Papa
of all the changes we've seen in Goa since we first visited it 15 years ago, these are the things that make me cringe.
We walked past Ruffles and almost everything on the outside menu board were pies (of all varieties) and things like liver and onions.
However, there must be a demand for this type of food otherwise restaurants wouldn't be offering it.
We just try to find places that have a varied menu of fish, seafood, Indian, Goan and Chinese - and most definitely no Karaoke or quiz night.
We have beaches which are cleaned every day, daily rubbish collection, wonderful beach fronts, streets with pavements, parks and gardens which are maintained daily. Kareoke etc is where you look for it - we don't but we go to many wonderful Spanish bars which serve great food.
OK - why are we in Goa - because we love the sunshine and nothing to do with the cost of living - we can afford to live where-ever we like and are soon moving on to spend time in the Australian winter (their summer) but do like to be in Goa where we have many friends which we have made over the years That is the main attraction here for us - we usually meet friends on the beach or in bars every week but this season they are getting less and less.
Perhaps we're being unfair to Benidorm in using it as a bye-word for attracting the steak pudding and chips, lager for breakfast, union jacked British slobby tourist. Nothing personal to Benidorm - it's just a way of summarising a type of tourist we all recognise.
Sunday lunches, bangers & mash, pie and chips, bingo and karaoke are all a main part of many tourist places nowadays. Many Greek islands and Turkish resorts offer these - and they wouldn't do so if there weren't a demand for them.
I don't think we're comparing the places - ie Goa and Benidorm. Just saying that there's an increasing number of people you see in Goa that would be very much at home in Benidorm
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Perhaps we should go somewhere else to discuss this but I do not live in Benidorm - I live in Benalmadena/Arroya de la Miel which is a holiday resort and also a working town but have no wish to compare this with Goa - honestly there is no comparison with infasturacture.
Sunday lunches, bangers & mash, pie and chips, bingo and karaoke are all a main part of many tourist places nowadays. Many Greek islands and Turkish resorts offer these - and they wouldn't do so if there weren't a demand for them.
Sorry but I'd run a mile away from anywhere offering this cr@p.
Lots of fish & chip bars popping up here and there,one in paticular very busy....the local bars in Calangute are always busy...so obviously there are a majority of Goa holidaymakers who come here for that.
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