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Yes the 39 was on time so no need to write to the bus company.

More than can be said for this flight which leaves late each week. Why not reschedule it if it can't leave on time ?
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Thanks Lucy - or perhaps they are late being prepared to leave and need to resolve those issues too ?
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HuddersfieldTourist,

As mentioned previously, there are many reasons for an aircraft not pushing back on time. If you've seen the weather over the last few days, that has been causing quite a few issues for aircraft with some having to divert to alternate airports because of gusts of over 60mph, and we've had it easy here compared to those unfortunatele people to have been hit severely in Cumbria. Sunday is looking rough as well with gusting winds over 50kn forecast. 30 minutes late is a minor inconvenience and hardly the end of the world. Some of this time will have been made up for inflight, one reason the outbound may have been slightly later than planned (ie to make it's slot in SSH). The main thing is the aircraft is prepared and safe to leave stand. Previous flight history is no indication of whether your flight will be subject to a similar departure time on the day of your flight.

Darren
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Thanks for the reply. The 30 minute delay I agree is not great but when the departure for the very same flight has varied between 29 and 34 minutes late each week for the last 3 weeks then it could be either an ongoing issue or just a run of different issues. If it is the same one then something perhaps needs to change - even the departure time changing.What would be the point of having a flight scheduled at 10.30am if it is always going to be late due to factors beyond its control - why not change it to 10.50 am ? I agree the most important thing is the state of the aircraft and some time can often be made up depending on tail winds / head winds etc etc
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HuddersfieldTourist,

The way I see it in all my years of flying I have never ever taken off exactly on time.Airlines build these delays into their schedules and 30 minutes or so is not that big a deal especially on long haul.

Papa
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It should be also mentioned that the time of departure on your ticket isn't the take off time but the push back time, after that, depending on the airport, the taxiing can be absolutely endless ... Heathrow being a pretty good example ...
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Huddersfieldtourist
Does it really matter that much? how many planes take off on time every week?
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I think there are more important question for the mods to answer than wasting time on why an aircraft was 29 - 34 minutes late 3 weeks on the trot. ;)

Darren maybe you could tell me how many aircraft in the last year left on time ? please don't put yourself out to answer next year will do. :wave:
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snowyboy wrote:
I think there are more important question for the mods to answer than wasting time on why an aircraft was 29 - 34 minutes late 3 weeks on the trot. ;)


In Agreement, We Are Here To Help As Many As We Can, So Questions On How Many Aircraft Have Departed At Certain Times Are Not Practical To Answer.

snowyboy wrote:
Darren maybe you could tell me how many aircraft in the last year left on time ? please don't put yourself out to answer next year will do.


Do You Want That From Any Particular Airport ? :D

Gower
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Thomson Airways punctuality record is available on Flight On Time.

Darren
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hiya guys my 1st time to mexico in january

can any one tell me what the flights are like flighing from manchester!
is it boring ??? what do i need to take???
how many meals do you get on the plane? etc etc any help will be appreciated

thanks guys

des :tup
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Hi Des, you'll get more response posting this in the flight section but I can tell you that you'll more than likely get seatback tv's with interactive games e.g. Who wants to be a Millionaire, hangman etc. You'll have two meals on board and a good choice of films. It is long but it does go reasonably quick as there is so much going on.
  • Edited by David 2009-11-20 21:01:51
    Thanks Shirley, the posts have now been merged with our Thomson Airways topic
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Hiya,
We booked a few weeks ago to travel to Sharm from Manchester on flight TOM 796 on 26th November 2009. The booking details say we are leaving at 09.55 arriving at 17.30. I have today picked up my tickets and they state we leave at 10.55 arriving 18.30.

When I asked the travel agent about it she just said that it was strange the hadn't informed us of a time change and we should just go with the time on the tickets.

I am a little worried now, how can I check if this flight has changed times?

We travel back on TOM 877 on the 7th December and those flight times haven't changed.

Any advice would be much appreciated,
Thanks
Anne
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Julmops - "It should be also mentioned that the time of departure on your ticket isn't the take off time but the push back time" - it was 29 to 34 minutes late at this stage ( push back ) as it happens.

snowyboy - "I think there are more important question for the mods to answer than wasting time on why an aircraft was 29 - 34 minutes late 3 weeks on the trot"
I never asked that question so I can not see why you put posted this comment about my comment.What I said was if a flight is going to be late leaving each week should its scheduled departure time be changed for the future.

papa - "Airlines build these delays into their schedules and 30 minutes or so is not that big a deal especially on long haul" - I did not say it was a big deal and nor is this flight long haul as it happens.I raised an issue as to why if any flight is going to be late each week - then why do they not change its scheduled time for departure.

mollie 43 "Does it really matter that much? how many planes take off on time every week?" - Plenty do push back on time and plenty don't but if one particular flight is going to be late each week then should the scheduled departure time be altered ? Not sure precisely what you meant by a take off time.Where are take off times listed ? It can leave the gate on time but then get " held up " on its way to the runway.
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"Sharm from Manchester on flight TOM 796 on 26th November 2009. The booking details say we are leaving at 09.55 arriving at 17.30. I have today picked up my tickets and they state we leave at 10.55 arriving 18.30"

We fly on 26.11.09 on the TOM818 at 10.30am from Manchester to Sharm ( for the Celebration Red Sea magic ) - when we booked the alternative was at 10.55am and had been changed from 9.55am.

Hope that helps a little !
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des,

Welcome :wave:

Shirly h, Has Given A Prety Good Summary, There Is Entertainment Provided By Seatback Monitors With A Wide Selection Of Movies, TV Shows, Music And Games.

You Will Be Served Two Meals, (Depending On The Time Of Day You Are Flying) It Is A Lunch And A Light Snack Normally Outwards. And Tea And Then Breakfast On The Return.

Your Flight Will Be Operated Using A Boeing 767-300, More Information On Which Can Be Found On Our What Aircraft? Thread (Linked In My Signature)

Gower
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paradiselover,

I Would Go With The Times On The Ticket.
On My Schedule I Have It Showing As
MAN - SSH Thursday dpt 10:55 arr 18:30 757-200 TOM796 12/11/2009 04/03/2010


If You Wanted It Wont Harm To Phone Thomson Airways Again To Check

Gower
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HuddersfieldTourist,

The Schedule Is Drawn Up Well In Advance Of Flights Operating, (They Will Already Be Doing Next Winters At The Moment). When They Are Being Decided There Are Set Allocated Times That They Give To Each Route eg X amount of Time For A Flight To Do MAN - SSH - MAN.

I Can See Your Point When You Say It Is Strange That The Aircraft Is Often Running Late, The Reason Why They Won't Change The Scheduled Time Is Because It Is Already Designed For The Aircraft To Operate At That Time, So By Changing It They Would Have To Contact Everyone And Also If The Plane Was Then Running To Time It Would Be Sat On The Ground Doing Nothing.

We Will Have To See What Happens With Your Flight Next Week

Gower
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Gower

Many thanks for the constructive reply. As you say it will be interesting to see what happens this next week.

I just thought that Thomsonfly would ideally want to change the time if it is going to be an ongoing issue at 10.30 each week for the sake of its punctuality records. Particularly if the plane has been sat there waiting to leave the gate for 30 minutes but can not for reasons beyond its control. Nor is it that great for the crew etc to be stood about possible explaining why nothing is happening to some passengers who may ask.

Thanks again.
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