My partner did not really want to go to Turkey as she heard the hassling , by that I mean flirtatious manner, of Turkish men, is not what she wants on holiday or slimy charm. She loves the quieter Greek islands where she has never had any problems and excellent manners.
I know many of you will say it is no problem, but she has heard enough to have made her nervous already. Knowing that most Turkish men are gentlemen of course, please can you advise of the best way to deflect unwanted attention without causing a bad feeling...in other words man comes to my partner uninvited in the street, at beach, at restaurant or on day trip, and starts saying how beautiful she is, and asking personal questions - is it best for her to say ''please stop saying those things your wife or girlfriend would not like it'' or ''please go away'' (slime ball)...I am sure some sad younger females may find it flattering, but anyone with a brain does not want to be valued on looks in this way especially when on holiday with a partner.
Any advice welcome!! If I had to I would simply say, ''please dont carry on'' and if someone carried on I would say ''shall I go say these things to your wife then?..clear off!!''
Before anyone gets all defensive, remember we would think any Brit saying this intrusively here in the UK was completely foul, so it is not so unreasonable to post this seeking practical advice.
Do what Turkish women do.... no eye contact and completely ignore them. They will desperately say something to get you attention but be strong! If they persist then just say go away or i'll call the police...it shouldn't get that far though. If you get hassle from restaurant personnel then just tell them that you will call the Zabita, they would close the restaurant down. REMEMBER.... if enough people do this they will eventually get the message, playing along with their stupid antics only makes things worse for others.
Chelsea Boy is spot on. In addition don't get hopelessly drunk and do wear appropriate clothing. By that I mean keep the beach wear to the beach. Wearing a skimpy bikini top and shorts around town is drawing attention to yourself. Many of these lads come from villages where women dress conservatively and they see it as a come on.
Just completely ignore them, don't enter into any eye contact or any dialogue. You should probably be OK anyway as you sound like a normal respectable couple. They often only approach single women, not necessarily younger ones often middle aged ones who look lonely and are on their own, or with disinterested looking husbands, as they are after a visa, or money for 'medical treatment' for their elderly parents who are dying etc etc. I don't think you should let the worry of this spoil your holiday. Unfortunately the Turkish Love Rats forum is no longer, although if you put those three words into google it will give you a feel for the problem. If you had read the forum it would have probably put your mind at rest in a weird kind of way, as it would have shown that a lot of the attention was targeted at specific sorts of women, a category I am sure your partner will not fall into.
Thank you everyone. The advice seems really helpful to basically ignore it as the Turkish women do and not provoke them with dress or eye contact. Much appreciated
If you are together as a couple most men wont come up to your wife but if anyone says anything then as Chelsea Boy says, do as the Turkish women do and ignore any remarks. If someone persists then you are right in thinking that if you say "how would you like it if someone spoke to your wife/girlfriend or sister like that?" they will get the point.
Most Turkish men are very friendly and they don't normally hassle a woman with a man unless the woman is acting in a way to encourage this (I have seen that happen often enough though)
Thank you so much, that is really helpful to hear it from a Turkish lady
I'm not Turkish White Rabbit, I'm English and my husband is Turkish. I lived in Turkey though and had Turkish friends out there.
i have to agree with kedi,ignoring them usually works just fine lol and if your together there is less chance of anything too, only if she is by herself they might try to chat to her! usually a polite no thanks or whatever works fine! like kedi, ive lived there before, i was there last season staying with my hubby and he knows what turkish men are like cos he was one of them in his younger days he was like dont be polite and say hi or whatever-just ignore and walk on lol! he also told me to watch what i wore i.e. if wearing white clothing for example lol as they would be looking too lol! you kinda know all this dont you but we all like a bit of banter on hol and normal chatting not neccessariyl flirting eh but hubby is like no chance cos they will get ideas!!! i have many turkish friends who are merely being friendly, when i explained about their behaviour sometimes they were like oh, we were just being friendly not trying to flirt or harrass lol, of course you will get ones who do only want to do that lol! im sure you will find people you will like and get on well with and who will become your friends, theyr not all bad ones, i mean thats 2 of us replied to you who are married to turks happy hols!x
As you say there will be friendly people who it is fine to speak some words with, I guess it is see how it goes and if some go too far , tell them to 'go away'. We are freindly people so it doesnt come naturally to not smile or speak to anyone...but maybe we will have to be a bit more like that to avoid collision course with some of them.
I am sure now we will have a great time.
Thanks all
Honestly you really wont have to be like that, as long as you are together you can be friendly, chat and smile. They aren't that bad. You will probably have no reason to tell anyone to go away at all. We are just telling worst case scenarios just in case.
Exactly I am sure you are right. At least we know a bit more now how to manage it should it happen
the people are very hospitable and if they can help you they will, they want you to enjoy your holiday and to come back again! there doesnt always need to be a hidden agenda!my hubby loves meeting new people and its a chance for him to practice and reinforce his english lol and he keeps in touch with them and they come back to see him etc which is nice.... as kedi says we are giving worst scenarios, prob you will find its fine, esp since you are together, prob just be a bit of banter and winding u up that goes on but thats all really!x
thank you aam...lovely to read your messages and how friendly they have been to you.
I was in a shop with my hubby and sons and had taken a seat while i was waiting for the kids to be finish looking. The owner of the shop came over to talk, which i was fine with, we had a few mins of conversation then he decided he would put his hand between my knees and just left it there!! i had a dress on so it made me feel really uncomfortable to say the least. Im usually a very polite person but i told him to remove his hand or i would slap his face for him.....my hubby heard what id said and came over but i got him out of the shop before he could react when i told him. The man was roughly my age and i think he was just pushing his luck as i certainly dont think that he would treat a turkish woman in that way.
Ive had no more problems with anyone though, i walk around the resort by myself and i have male Turkish friends who have never been flirty or feely with me...to be honest i find you get more creeps trying to chat you up on a night out here rather than in Turkey.
If you feel that someone is coming on too strong then tell them so and also as Chelsea boy said, mention Zabita to them and watch their attitude change. In general most Turkish men are fine and friendly towards you and im sure you will have a fab holiday there.
I wen last year with my two and was expecting the worst having been previously with my blonde daughter - but I got none of it.
In fact - I got quite the reverse. In resteraunts I had to seat myself because we were ignored. Sometimes took forever to be served. In shops there was none of the pushy sell - in fact I had to chase round after them to be served.
Was nice in the beginning but after I while it raised my hackles as I felt they were all judging me - then I settled down and was thankfull I didnt have to engage in any unecessary chat or try cover my blushes in front of he kids.
It worked for me!!
your welcome white rabbit,no problem! anything else ask away on here or pm me and ill be happy to help lol!happy holidays, can i come in your suitcase pleaseeeeeeeeee x
To be honest I found Turkey no worse than any other country for being harrassed. Some women will be harassed more than others. It depends who you are with, how you are acting and how the women looks. Im sure Turkish men have standards too! So yeah, pretty much like any other country or your local nightclub on a saturday night.
Greenshoes, yes I am sure all will be fine as you say if one is sensible and discerning. You have all been very helpful.
Thank you all
unwanted male attention is fine, but those pesky resturant owners harrassing you............well...............
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