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Hi Sanji :D

Hope you feel better for saying that. I think (hope) you will find that there are some non smokers like myself who don't begrudge smokers the chance to still smoke should they so wish. As you say there needs to be a bit of compromise it's still a free country(I hope) and it shouldn't take too much organisation to accommodate everyone and you are paying a huge amount of tax on our behalfs for the privilage. I hope he enjoyed his cigar.

Doe :D
Edit :sorry mods I hadn't read the previous page and didn't realise you didn't want us to debate smoking. :oops:
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We stayed in the Travelodge at Manchester Airport on Christmas Night prior to our recent trip to Alicante and even though I booked this hotel in November and booked a smoking room I received an e-mail in mid December saying that all Travelodge hotels were going to be no smoking from 1st January but Manchester Airport travelodge was with immediate effect.
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MarkJ (Mod) ... i hope you don't go firing a big padlock on this thread, the simple fact is that you can't have this debate without mentioning that the bans were not brought in to persecute smokers, but rather as protection for workers

Spain's smoking rule? Well, as far as i'm concerned it's a complete abortion, and i will give an example. Whilst on holiday Calella de Palafrugell in September, we were at the bar complex ... at the bar itself, there is a no smoking policy .. outside on the veranda area you can smoke, but at this time of year it was covered with a canopy. However, the door and windows were open, so it was well ventilated. However, with a couple of days left, they sealed down the plastic windows, and started closing the sliding doors, therefore it became a steam room!!!! Now, where's this choice you are talking about, Sanji? The smoke didn't respect the no smoking rule at the bar area!! This is where the ban in Spain falls down

I do feel sorry for considerate smokers, the ones who didn't insist on puffing their way through a meal in a restaurant, etc, and who maybe cared about the feelings of others, but at the end of the day, this ban isn't about smokers vs non-smokers, it's about workers rights
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I think the smoking ban is the best thing that has ever happened.
Defiantly here in Scotland anyway.
You can now go to the pub and not come home reeking of cigarette smoke.

:cheers
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having been a smoker for many years -although i keep trying to give up- i thoroughly approve of being able to smoke in the spanish bars. they have signs on the doors letting you know about the policy and then the non-smokers have the choice of whether to use that particular bar or not. in the same way that smokers have the choice not to use a bar that wont allow smoking.
workers would also know what they were getting into, and could make a lifestyle choice as to whether they wanted to work at that establishment or not.
i was a publican for many years, and had a no smoking section in my restaurant long before the laws came in over here.i believe that people should be given the right to choose for themselves.
it is a fact of life that since the smoking ban trade has gone down in the vast majority of traditional pubs by figures ranging from 10-40%. the only pubs getting any real benefit are the ones that cater primarily for foodies rather than drinkers.
in my view, the laws over here were enacted wrongly.it is all very well protecting workers rights, but the government did not look at all potential problems ie publicans going bankrupt with the loss of jobs,the number of people stood outside pubs having a smoke and the resultant litter,and the fact that non-smokers would still have to walk through a smoke cloud to get into a smoke free pub.
a bit of common sense when the laws were passed, or even a review(like they are doing with cannabis) to ensure the law was a good one -like happened in spain-would go a long way to making this country a happier place.
just because something is not good for us,should not mean that the government must legislate to ban it.will they ban the sale of alcohol;close down the kebab shops;ban us from cutting the grass in summer or growing any pollen bearing plants etc
we will not all agree on this issue, but i for one think that the spanish way on this issue is much more sensible than ours.
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The tile of this topic is "The No Smoking ban and hotel rooms" and is now turning into views on the introduced ban in the UK.

It is therefore best to close this topic before it gets too political.

MarkJ HT Mod
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