Well I've just come back from Spain and enjoyed every minute of being able to smoke in my room, in certain bars and in my hotel.
I also smoked my head off in a hotel room on East Midlands Airport....I had the choice of smoking or non smoking and the room was first class.
If it can work in Spain, then I can't see why it couldn't work in the UK, it's banned in public places and transport, but everybody gets a choice of whether they want to enter a smoking bar or a non smoking bar"¦.
I think it's called compromise and that's something some people in the Uk are unable to do.
It's a sorry day when my hubby has to take to Spain the cigars he has bought from there because it's the only place he can sit and enjoy one.
It's ok popping outside for a quick fag, but you can't do that with a cigar.
The workers don't seem to be complaining in Spain or the holiday makers when they go there.
I hate this country and some of the people in it..
If you want to delete this. please do...I just felt like getting it off my chest, I'm sick to my back teeth of the smoking issue.
Sanji
Hope you feel better for saying that. I think (hope) you will find that there are some non smokers like myself who don't begrudge smokers the chance to still smoke should they so wish. As you say there needs to be a bit of compromise it's still a free country(I hope) and it shouldn't take too much organisation to accommodate everyone and you are paying a huge amount of tax on our behalfs for the privilage. I hope he enjoyed his cigar.
Doe
Edit :sorry mods I hadn't read the previous page and didn't realise you didn't want us to debate smoking.
We stayed in the Travelodge at Manchester Airport on Christmas Night prior to our recent trip to Alicante and even though I booked this hotel in November and booked a smoking room I received an e-mail in mid December saying that all Travelodge hotels were going to be no smoking from 1st January but Manchester Airport travelodge was with immediate effect.
Spain's smoking rule? Well, as far as i'm concerned it's a complete abortion, and i will give an example. Whilst on holiday Calella de Palafrugell in September, we were at the bar complex ... at the bar itself, there is a no smoking policy .. outside on the veranda area you can smoke, but at this time of year it was covered with a canopy. However, the door and windows were open, so it was well ventilated. However, with a couple of days left, they sealed down the plastic windows, and started closing the sliding doors, therefore it became a steam room!!!! Now, where's this choice you are talking about, Sanji? The smoke didn't respect the no smoking rule at the bar area!! This is where the ban in Spain falls down
I do feel sorry for considerate smokers, the ones who didn't insist on puffing their way through a meal in a restaurant, etc, and who maybe cared about the feelings of others, but at the end of the day, this ban isn't about smokers vs non-smokers, it's about workers rights
Defiantly here in Scotland anyway.
You can now go to the pub and not come home reeking of cigarette smoke.
workers would also know what they were getting into, and could make a lifestyle choice as to whether they wanted to work at that establishment or not.
i was a publican for many years, and had a no smoking section in my restaurant long before the laws came in over here.i believe that people should be given the right to choose for themselves.
it is a fact of life that since the smoking ban trade has gone down in the vast majority of traditional pubs by figures ranging from 10-40%. the only pubs getting any real benefit are the ones that cater primarily for foodies rather than drinkers.
in my view, the laws over here were enacted wrongly.it is all very well protecting workers rights, but the government did not look at all potential problems ie publicans going bankrupt with the loss of jobs,the number of people stood outside pubs having a smoke and the resultant litter,and the fact that non-smokers would still have to walk through a smoke cloud to get into a smoke free pub.
a bit of common sense when the laws were passed, or even a review(like they are doing with cannabis) to ensure the law was a good one -like happened in spain-would go a long way to making this country a happier place.
just because something is not good for us,should not mean that the government must legislate to ban it.will they ban the sale of alcohol;close down the kebab shops;ban us from cutting the grass in summer or growing any pollen bearing plants etc
we will not all agree on this issue, but i for one think that the spanish way on this issue is much more sensible than ours.
The tile of this topic is "The No Smoking ban and hotel rooms" and is now turning into views on the introduced ban in the UK.
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