I am just trying to think of this from a Goan viewpoint. I assume that the ownership of a beach shack on a busy beach is pretty much a licence to print money, and will provide income to last the whole year. Stands to reason that an enterprising young Goan would like to get his feet on the first rung of the ladder and be awarded a licence. BUT the old hands want to protect their seniority and not be pushed out by any newcomer. I know that some Goan families, beach livers for ages, probably starting out as the owner of a fishing boat (where are they now?), and then sidelined into beach shacks before giving up fishing completely.
My favourite shack is Jackies next to the Golden Eye restaurant, and fits this description exactly. It would be unthinkable for me to go anywhere else during my stay in Goa as like many writers here, you build up, at least in your own mind, a bond with the family. The problem is that they dont own the beach where they set up the shack and in the eyes of the law have nothing to make then different from a newcomer.
Add in the complications of Indian officialdom, antagonism from hotel owners, corruption and general incompetency and this situation arises.
Goa has nothing to recommend it to any other business; Tourism is all it has. One writer points out that he thinks there are enough 'Indian' tourists to allow it to run without caring for the European guests. I dont know whether that is true. Some here shout out the charms of Thailand, a country I am familiar with more so than Goa. Somewhere like Pattaya would not survive without free spending Westerners to support the high end businesses. I feel that goa is the same. The hotels and nice restaurants are only there because of European tourists coming for the winter fortnight.
There is already a massive undercurrent of problems between the native Goans and the Karnatakans who come in to provide much of the labour and market stalls. The longer you visit Goa, the more you become aware of all this, the more heartbreaking it becomes until eventually you go somewhere else.
I suspect that the current slowness with the shacks has behind it something more than just who owns the shacks. There is a power struggle going on , and once money starts to be lost in a big way ( from about now in my view), I think it will all resolve quickly. Hope so anyway.
Lester,
Fantastic post.Great to read a balanced view of what may be happening.Protectionism versus new blood.Gave me a good insight into what may be going on.
I think I will re read this post many times every time my rose tinted glasses go on.Food for thought indeed.
Thank you
Papa
Fantastic post.Great to read a balanced view of what may be happening.Protectionism versus new blood.Gave me a good insight into what may be going on.
I think I will re read this post many times every time my rose tinted glasses go on.Food for thought indeed.
Thank you
Papa
well we had a long hot and beautiful walk the length of the beach yesterday... it was amazing.... as as we reached it, it was just like old times, or the end of season!! yes you got it ...no shacks!! but hey this is Goa and of course there are all those enterprising Goans who always find a way ...'no problem' ... yes they are taking orders and fetching them from kitchens/restaurants elsewhere, there are beds sunshades and 'makeshift shacks' (well a couple of benches and a table and shade)
for shade and drink the atmosphere was actually great down there ... more primitive than we have all become used to... but great and we had our cold drinks no prob!! .... it was more quiet candolim end but there was somewhere to eat and drink if you looked about or wandered along.... I am sure the shacks will be up before long, we did see one being built!!
this is a beautiful stretch of beach and you really see it when there are no shacks... not that i want that to continue for too long!!
took some photos will try and load them here, if not will post on photo section
chilly
for shade and drink the atmosphere was actually great down there ... more primitive than we have all become used to... but great and we had our cold drinks no prob!! .... it was more quiet candolim end but there was somewhere to eat and drink if you looked about or wandered along.... I am sure the shacks will be up before long, we did see one being built!!
this is a beautiful stretch of beach and you really see it when there are no shacks... not that i want that to continue for too long!!
took some photos will try and load them here, if not will post on photo sectionchilly
Was Fishermans up Chilly? Sam told me they were building it and would take approx 10 days..this was end of October.
no Fishermans wasnt up but they have the old structure where the generator usually stays as a bar front and a small table for Anna and a bench up on the beach!! to take orders and all the food is being brought up and down by Sam from the restaurant
it was packed...all sunbeds up ..loads of people.... but no sign of building the shack yet...
they seem to think it should be soon though
chilly
it was packed...all sunbeds up ..loads of people.... but no sign of building the shack yet...
they seem to think it should be soon thoughchilly
Lester's post made interesting reading and I tend to agree there is a power struggle going on. Hoteliers want you to spend your days lounging around the pool, drinking and eating from their fayre, (they want the beaches to be a less attractive place to be) but it just won't work that way for the majority. So we spend our time on the beach and head for local restaurants to eat/drink then return to the beach, that probably won't work either, and anyway once the shacks are out of the picture (which is also I think what the tourism minister wants) the hoteliers will be complaining that the restaurants are nicking their trade..........and so the problem continues
Trouble is there are less tourists to go around and they are ALL fighting for our money. Perhaps if the hotels improved their food quality/choice and their entertainment was of a higher standard then maybe their guests would "eat in" more often. They should be looking at why shacks and restaurants do so well instead of trying to get rid of the competition by fair means or foul...................up their game and fight them on a level playing field and provide what the tourist wants, which is CHOICE. If and when tourism improves there is plenty of business for everyone......just wish they'd look at the bigger picture and pull their fingers out
Just a simplistic view from me
Fizz
Trouble is there are less tourists to go around and they are ALL fighting for our money. Perhaps if the hotels improved their food quality/choice and their entertainment was of a higher standard then maybe their guests would "eat in" more often. They should be looking at why shacks and restaurants do so well instead of trying to get rid of the competition by fair means or foul...................up their game and fight them on a level playing field and provide what the tourist wants, which is CHOICE. If and when tourism improves there is plenty of business for everyone......just wish they'd look at the bigger picture and pull their fingers out
Just a simplistic view from me
Fizz
I will look at this positively and if there are no shacks on the beach this year when I go I amy lose a bit of weight this year instead of putting it on. Under no circumstances would I ever stay around the hotel pool, I big part of my holiday is the beaches and I will be quite happy to spread out my extra large sarong/sheet and towel and eat fruit and drink water all day and read my books. More room for the lovely food in the evening.
I'm not a big "beach person" Brenliz but I do like having the option of eating at the beach OR just slobbing out by the pool at the guesthouse. When I do go on the beach I go to Peters shack at Calangute or if in Baga I use the Big Banana but I would prefer it if they didn't take away my "choice" as I don't want to stay by the pool ALL of the time.... might as well stay at home if they do that
I would also be content to spread my towel or sarong out on the sand and take my own food and drink, I expect many would do the same should it become necessary, but it is still nice to have a shack nearby if only for the loo and a bit of shade
Fizz
I would also be content to spread my towel or sarong out on the sand and take my own food and drink, I expect many would do the same should it become necessary, but it is still nice to have a shack nearby if only for the loo and a bit of shade
Fizz
Good news, shacks getting licenses tomorrow tuesday 10th November, and full steam ahead, they are all working 24 hours to be up and running within a week or so.
don't panic!!
I am absolutely sure the shacks will be up soon.... its been this late before.... chill!!!
chilly
I am absolutely sure the shacks will be up soon.... its been this late before.... chill!!!chilly
oops i wrote that post before sfelts had posted must have both wrote at same time!! !! but thats great anyway and proves the point...chill!!
chilly
chilly
Good news, shacks getting licenses tomorrow tuesday 10th November, and full steam ahead, they are all working 24 hours to be up and running within a week or so.
Just out of curiosity, where did that news originate from?
I have a friend who owns a shack and he has been to the meeting today, it will be in tomorrows newspapers.
Many thanks for the quick update sfelts.
Gel
Gel
Great news....wonder what all the doom and gloom brigade will worry about now?
Regarding Blobb140 rather snide remark about the gloom and doom brigade, that's the sort of remark that adds nothing to this forum .Many of us regular Goan addicts regard the shacks as an integral part of the Goan experience, and the usual hold ups were affecting the possible enjoyment of our visit. All too often this site seems to develop into argumennts, more often than not by some posters remarks, that add nothing to the exchange of information taking place.My thanks to Sfelts and others for their worthwhile imput. Alan
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