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Re: THOMSON AIRWAYS ... Q&As

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-12 15:59:03

brewerdave wrote:
...but if they reconfigure the ex Thomsonfly planes to increase the number of Premium seats ,surely the total no. of passengers carried will still be less than the 787s?

The 787-8 are to be configured with 47 Premium Club seats and 244 Economy Club seats. The current ex-FCA 763's have 63 premium economy seats and 195 economy, the ex-TOM 31 premium economy and 252 economy. If the ex-TOM are reconfigured with 47 premium club seats, ie 3 more rows of premium will be needed to give enough seats, it'll give approximately 228 economy seats so that's not enough to cover the economy cabin. The only way I can see it working is if seat pitch in economy is reduced to say 31" so 2 more rows can be added to economy to give an extra 16 seats, giving 244 economy seats. Not ideal, but there may not be a lot of option.

The above is not to be taken seriously, we'll have to wait until March when a decision is being made and those on effected flights should be notified.

Darren

dinner-lady

2013-02-12 17:01:15

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OMG !!! I could not imagine sitting in a seat with 31" seat pitch for 10 hours. I found the 33" pitch on Thomas Cook uncomfortable as you cannot do anything but sit straight and then when the seat in front reclines they just about have their head on your lap :yikes

I must say I will be happy with the ex FCA 767 if push comes to shove as they are still more comfortable than the TC Longhaul Airbus.........at the end of the day as long as I get to Mexico I am not too worried as I am sure Thomsons will do their utmost to make passengers as comfortable as they possibly can given the circumstances

Sunaddict

2013-02-12 18:03:23

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Most scheduled airlines are 31" pitch in economy.

ukbill

2013-02-12 18:18:48

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Most scheduled airlines are 31" pitch in economy.

And it really is a truly ghastly way to start a holiday. No matter what size one is.

Iâ€™m a skinny little 5foot8 runt â€“ and I have done longhaul 31 inches several times, and it is HORRIBLE!
BA â€“ horrible. Monarch - even worse. Thomas Cook 767 longhaul just as bad.

First Choice broke the mould with their 767 offering way back 6 years ago which was great and still is the best way to do long haul charter economy. The only thing to come close to matching it is to fly scheduled economy on something like Qatar or Emirates.

FCA 767 is BETTER than the much advertised Dreamliner 787, since available width per passenger on the Dreamliner 787 has been REDUCED by over an inch to get the 9 rows in across the plane.
They do not tell you that in the ads!

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-12 18:43:11

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Let's just wait and see what happens as there's nothing concrete at the moment and anything could happen in the next 2 weeks.

I've been across the Atlantic many times on aircraft with 31" seat pitch, and less and its not as bad as it sounds and was the charter standard (30") until First Choice raised the bar in 2006. Many of the scheduled airlines still offer 31" seat pitch but some have fitted slim line seats that gives more room for the same seat pitch, but I'd still take the ex-FCA's over many carriers. Roll on 4 weeks on Monday!

Darren

dinner-lady

2013-02-12 18:48:07

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Where are you off to Darren ?

Sunaddict

2013-02-12 18:56:51

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ukbill wrote:
Most scheduled airlines are 31" pitch in economy.

And it really is a truly ghastly way to start a holiday. No matter what size one is.

Iâ€™m a skinny little 5foot8 runt â€“ and I have done longhaul 31 inches several times, and it is HORRIBLE!
BA â€“ horrible. Monarch - even worse. Thomas Cook 767 longhaul just as bad.

First Choice broke the mould with their 767 offering way back 6 years ago which was great and still is the best way to do long haul charter economy. The only thing to come close to matching it is to fly scheduled economy on something like Qatar or Emirates.

FCA 767 is BETTER than the much advertised Dreamliner 787, since available width per passenger on the Dreamliner 787 has been REDUCED by over an inch to get the 9 rows in across the plane.
They do not tell you that in the ads!

Being as I've never been on a Dreamliner, I wouldn't know whether the ex FCA 767s are better. Thousands of people everyday fly longhaul with 31" pitch. If it was so horrible you'd not see so many Florida holidaymakers choosing to fly Virgin and BA instead of Thomsons or Thomas Cook.

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-12 20:05:35

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dinner-lady wrote:
Where are you off to Darren ?

Negril, Jamaica although my favourite seat on the ex-FCA 763 has already been taken :cry

Darren

deana

2013-02-12 22:27:13

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763? Is that a 767 version? Hope you have a great time - 4 weeks sat to DR happy no fuss holiday I hope.

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-12 22:31:00

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deana wrote:
763? Is that a 767 version? Hope you have a great time - 4 weeks sat to DR happy no fuss holiday I hope.

763 is the shorthand term for Boeing 767-300/ER. I always have a great time! I hope you get to where you're going and have a great holiday too.

Darren

deana

2013-02-12 22:37:40

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Cheers Darren. I'm sure it will all sort itself out in the wash :). Loved the irony by the way.

dinner-lady

2013-02-13 06:15:55

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Dazbo HT Mod wrote:
dinner-lady wrote:
Where are you off to Darren ?

Negril, Jamaica although my favourite seat on the ex-FCA 763 has already been taken

Darren

I think that one may be reserved for the pilot

Have a great holiday you deserve it.

baz657

2013-02-13 10:17:21

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dinner-lady wrote:
I think that one may be reserved for the pilot Have a great holiday you deserve it.

If Darren was in either 0A or 0B I'd be the first to get off :rofl

Have a great time mate. Still sorting out some stuff so can't even book anything until that's all completed - the day it is I'll be looking for late deals leaving the next day!

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-13 10:32:35

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baz657,

You obviously saw my last attempt at a landing Baz!! You'll be glad you didn't book Cancun for 4th May now with all the issues at the moment. Hope you're all well.

Darren

gbailey141

2013-02-13 12:42:43

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Dazbo HT Mod wrote:
dinner-lady wrote:
Where are you off to Darren ?

Negril, Jamaica although my favourite seat on the ex-FCA 763 has already been taken

Darren

Have a great holiday Darren. The beach in Negril is fantastic!

Gav

Sunaddict

2013-02-13 12:48:32

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Dazbo HT Mod wrote:
dinner-lady wrote:
Where are you off to Darren ?

Negril, Jamaica although my favourite seat on the ex-FCA 763 has already been taken

Darren

I love 7 mile beach. It's awesome. Lucky you!

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-16 10:10:38

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An interesting development and to be taken with a pinch of salt and read in to it what you will at this stage, but I'm being told Thomson Airways pilots being retrained on the 757/767 for the summer due to those stepping up and trained on the 787-8, are now not looking like they are doing so until winter at the earliest. The introduction of Thailand from Gatwick will likely tech stop (for fuel) in Scandinavia onroute if the 787-8 doesn't arrive by September.

Again, i'll emphasis this is latest information coming out of Thomson Airways and doesn't mean too much at this stage, but this is looking like part of the contigency being put together to be announced in March if the 787-8's aren't going to be in service on time with 767's covering until they do arrive.

Darren

z.j.c

2013-02-16 10:52:02

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Hello

Just wondering if anyone can confirm out of the 10 767's in Thomson's fleet currently which ones are in the long haul configuration and which in the short haul?

I take it all the ex-FCA are in Long Haul config but what are the ex-TOM (YD,YF,YH,YG) currently in?

Also, which 767's were "due" to leave the fleet in replace of the dreamliners?

Thanks
Z.J.C

z.j.c

2013-02-16 11:05:56

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Dazbo HT Mod wrote:
z.j.c,

I assume you mean TOM144/5? It's an ex-FCA according to the schedule.

Darren

Hello

Sorry only just seen this reply I totally forgot I posted!! Yes thats the flight numbers thank you for confirming.

Thanks

Z.J.C

Dazbo HT Mod

2013-02-16 13:35:06

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z.j.c wrote:
Hello

Just wondering if anyone can confirm out of the 10 767's in Thomson's fleet currently which ones are in the long haul configuration and which in the short haul?

I take it all the ex-FCA are in Long Haul config but what are the ex-TOM (YD,YF,YH,YG) currently in?

Also, which 767's were "due" to leave the fleet in replace of the dreamliners?

Thanks
Z.J.C

All 6 ex-FCA are long haul, the ex-TOM are short haul at present. The 3x ex-FCA 763's due to leave and be replaced by 787-8's were G-OOAN, G-PJLO and G-DBLA. Even if the ex-FCA's leases are extended to cover the summer season, its not that simple as there are capacity issues. View my post here.

Darren

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