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Re: River princess
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I must have misunderstood. I thought that you meant the experts had discussed the RP situation.


Sorry yes, they predicted the erosion that exists today and the scattering of debris which will happen in the future.
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:offtop How to clean up the beaches in Goa..... get the tourists to do it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Gu7vCvHIQ

y**tube dot com

URL is blocked... work it out
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If anyone is interested as to what's in store for Goa if the decision to scrap it in place is taken, just Google "Indian Shipbreakers" and prepare to say a prayer for all the surrounding beaches if ever it goes ahead.
The only thing that may save it happening is that she did'nt run aground at high tide so any attempt to cut her up there would be difficult. As well, the current depressd state of the scrap steel market would make it uneconomic at this time. I expect the next tender will fail, the same as all the rest, and she'll be left there to let the monsoons to slowly break her up over many years, as a testament to all that's wrong with all levels of Goverment in Goa.
Alan
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According to the Times of India today they have finally decided to cut up & remove the river princess after all these years

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Fate-of-Princess-sealed/articleshow/5609205.cms

chilly
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I saw a pig flying past my window this morning :)

Seriously though lets hope something happens this time before its too late.
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there must be thousands of those pigs by now flying past everyone's windows lmao :rofl
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However, we are going to make it clear that there should be no damage to the beach or ecology
:rofl
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All shipbreaking, such as up the coast at Alang, involves firstly running the ship ashore at the highest tide, allowing maximum time for scrapping of the vessel. In this case the ship is far below the highwater mark so the time for operations is limited severely. A roadway will have to be made for heavy trucks to gain access right down to the site. Anyone who thinks this can be done without massive damage to the beach, and it's surroundings is living in fantasy land. Also it will be impossible to do most of the scrapping during the rough seas of the monsoon, so all this operation will be mounted during the tourist season. When all this sinks in, I expect the protests and whatnot will start, consequently, I would imagine we'will have the old girl sitting there for a long time yet. It will be interesting to see the position taken by the esteemed Tourism Minister, I'm not sure how burning up and scrapping ships on the Cadolim beach, fits in with his image of Goa as an upmarket destination for five star tourists.
Gramps
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Gramps...

I agree with what you are saying.... I used to live near a ship breaking yard.

If this starts after the monsoon this year it will bring chaos to Candolim. Why would any holidaymaker want to book a 4/5 star holiday in Candolim with all this nonsense happening? I wouldn't be booking a holiday next year at Taj Village or the like.

If this starts in Oct/Nov along with late shack opening.... more doom and gloom.

Fiddling while Rome burns I'm afraid.
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If you want to see what's coming Candolims way have a look at
http://www.moxon.net/india/alang.html or google "Alang shipbreaking" it'll break your heart, to see this hapenning in Goa in the near future
Alan
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Very interesting. Doesn't bear thinking about it.

Even though these teams take 2 months to dismantle a ship, imagine the destruction to the surrounding area and chaos during and after. And this isn't a tourist area. Bet they don't clean their mess up either.

It's probably inevitable that this is the way they will do the job. I imagine it will take Sinquerim a long time to recover if this goes ahead. Very sad.
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Terrific read that.

I do not want to sound callous or uncaring in any way but it seems to me they now just have to get this done.

It is going to be messy and cause major disruption but whatever solution they came to that would be the case.

They just have to get the pros in and get it done.Then clean up as best they can and start to rebuild.

Papa
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Papa said;
"Then clean up as best they can"
:rofl :rofl Its Goa, they,re allergic to cleaning up aren't they?

Gaz
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They are "making it clear there should be no damage to the beach" - bit late I'd say.
I shall miss the "old girl" if they do manage to find some "pro's" to do the job - thought previous attempts were carried out by "pro's" :que

Well all I can do is wish them the best of luck and hope that they achieve this mammoth task with minimal further destruction and upheaval.

Farewell "old girl".............or is it? :think

Fizz
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I guess the situation is getting rather critical now, if it was to break up during the monsoon, it would cause a lot more damage than workers cutting it up would. Obviously trying to make it sea worthy enough to tow it is the ideal the scenario but they dont seem prepared to put the money up for it!
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And still the nonsense and misinformation goes on. In fact NO reputable salvor was ever contracted to tow her off, in the early days it would have been a simple task. Now when the only course of action remaining is to scrap on site, you have the Calangute MLA, A Fernadez, coming away with conspiracy theories, and nonsencical statements that it would only cost 3-4 Crores to tow her away. With attitudes like that it will be no surprise if in fact nothing ever gets done, the monsoons over the years will slowly break her up, and the surrounding beaches will bear the scars for evermore.
Alan
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Heres some pics taken on a fishing trip next the the river Princess a few weeks ago,cant belive its
got this bad now.This could be the last time you will see it :rofl
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1109/smallnb.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9268/goa20092010531small.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7843/smallf.jpg
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6092/goa20092010530small.jpg
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:yikes thats terrible..Mike says he walked past it yesterday and says that there is no way that can be moved now.........thanks for the pics Split. I havent been down there but think i will tomorrow.....cant see it lasting much longer!! ;)
Chilly
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