you're not serious Split!!
I wont tell you his answer mgiht get deleted
chilly

Hi Split

Thanks for posting the pictures, are the holes on the land side or facing out to sea?
Judging by the size of them it will not make a lot of difference once the monsoon starts in earnest.

GM06
Ian

The holes are on the seaward side, they've been there for a long time now but the split is new. There's not much the monsoon can do to her, she's sunk deep into the sand so there she'll stay as there's no chance of her moving or sinking. I'd take a bet that no serious attemp will be made to scrap her any time soon, so she'll just sit there, and slowly disintigrate over the years. A testament to all thats wrong with the corrupt Goan Goverment.
Alan

Monsoon will finish the job.

Papa

It has been really really windy today and the sea has been very rough and dangerous, late afternoon lifeguards were patrolling shouting on a tanoy not to venture into the sea...i walked down to the river Princess and there was a indian family sitting on the beach looking at the water with a sand bank behind them when a massive wave came and caught them all... dragging them and all their belongings with it... the daughter about 13/14yrs was sobbing hysterically and the dad was trying afterwards to find all their clothes etc he was lucky his wallet was on there still lying on the shore line... just shows how dangerous this sea can be...yet there were still young Indians drinking and splashing in the water... right in front of the red flag!!! and some young European kids splashing alone in the water too ... stupid parents!!!!

There is a big digger on the beach building sand up high into banks.... but i think one high tide and it will have been a complete waste of time, and be washed away like this family nearly was!
Chilly

There is a big digger on the beach building sand up high into banks.... but i think one high tide and it will have been a complete waste of time, and be washed away like this family nearly was!
Chilly

http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/geo-textile-tubes-help-restore-candolim-beach

I'm afraid the Geo-textile tubes did little to save Sinquerm beach, some are burst, others already buried by the sea. All it did was to make it impossible to walk along the beach at high tide without having a degree in mountaineering to get along.
As always with Goa, too little too late, and the"elephant in the room" the River Princess remains , and until she's gone, one way or another the problem for the surrounding beaches will just continue to grow
Alan

Latest news
http://oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Decision-to-cut-Princess-would-be-a-big-blunder-Capt-Mehta/36257.html

I smell more money changing hands.

Papa

Numpties

No salvor will tender or attempt a refloat unless there is a profit margin in it. Over the years, since tenders were asked for, no international company with expertise in the field has ever submitted a tender, and now with the price of scrap metal depressed, the likely chance of making a profit refloating it are nil, even if it was possible, which it's not
This latest nonsense, sound as usual, very suspect. One wonders why the gentleman with specialist skills, which he is unwilling to place in the public domain, has been, when all the previous tenders to refloat were requested.
It sounds once again, like someone who is out to get some money up front, to attempt a task, which like all others, will fail.
One thing is certain, the old girl will still be sitting there, on our return in November, I'm more confident of that, than I am, of any shacks being built, where I can sit and view her from.
Alan

Yup - just can't see it ever going, I think they seem more intent on saving whats rest of Sinquerim with those eco-bags, which also seem to be having very little effect.

Just read goonerfans lastest link
Did anyone else notice this comment at the bottom of the page on the article from the Herald.

The comments feature has been suspended until further notice because of the posting of abusive and objectionable comments. "

GM06
Ian

Where I live in the West Midlands, the price of ferrous scrap metal has risen by 50% in the last few months, maybe it would be profitable again to re-float it and get all of it instead of just cutting/scrapping it down to the water line and leaving the heavier bit behind

Gaz

I'm just a girly and have no knowledge whatsoever of what is possible from an engineering/technical persepective - but, having looked at the photos provided by Split on this thread of the extent of the damage to the RP, I'd appreciate some knowledgable views of whether floating this ship off is even remotely achievable.

Even if they attempted to join the ship together and patch up the holes, they still have to remove at least 60,000 tonnes of sand in the botton of it, and pump all the water out again - all this before the monsoon comes again, as they will then have to cut holes in it again to give it stabillity against the high lashing seas and high winds.
Only way I can see it now, is to start at the top and remove anything possible down to the hull which is more or less in two parts and drag each half out ?
Gramps is the expert on this one - get yourself out there and show them what to do !

I'm afraid as regards scrap value, the quantity of ferrous metal remaining on board will be very little. every scrap of copper and brass and the like on board which could be moved will have been plundered years ago. I remember the first season after she grounded in June, when we arrived that August, all the fishing boats that, at that time, did trips to Anjuna Market, were fully equiped with lifejackets from the Princess
One of the earlier Indian companies who had a go at moving her, in fact was an experienced dredging company , but their attempts to dredge round her and pump her out came to nothing. The whole operation would have to be done between monsoons, and even if possible, the expense would be far greater than the scrap value.
All thats left now would be to scrap and burn down to the waterline, I would imagine the main diesel engine will be sunk below that level, as would be the propeller, the main value scrap items, and would, I think be very difficult to retrieve. All in all I would think that the effort required even for this solution, and the resulting damage to Candolim beach and surrounding infrastructure, would be too high a price to pay, and consequently, the usual Indian solution of do nothing will apply.
Alan

I still think that my idea of filling it up with helium filled balloons would work

del949 wrote:

I still think that my idea of filling it up with helium filled balloons would work :)

Looks like it could work del949